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hello guys,

see i have an Asus Rampage V extreme with an intel 5930k, its overclocked to 4.4ghz with voltage 1.282, its 100% stable tested 12 hours on aida64, 8 hours on asus realbench, and 2 hours on linX on maximum ram, temperatures are 85-90 on linx and 65-70 on realbench and aida64, i didnt test prime95 as it has issues with newer intel cpus, ofcourse i have been using this pc for more than a year now for heavy gaming and it was always stable no issues what so ever.

now this is the thing:
i noticed that sometimes, and sometimes only as it boots normally mostly; that when i switch on the pc (cold start) it starts for a second or two, then turns off for just a little while then turns on again and boots normally, and it works perfectly fine afterwards for gaming or what ever i use it for, is this weird boot sequence okay or normal? or does it mean something is wrong with my mb or psu? im seriously worried! how can i confirm and be sure my pc is fine? and incase the boot sequence is normal can somebody explain why does it happen and is there a way to stop it?

more info:
- i didnt have time to redo full stability tests but i did a linx stress test on maximum for about an hour and it passed frequently
- pc has been perfectly stable for gaming no other issues expect for this boot thing!!
- im having ERP S4+S5 enabled on the bios, does it relate?
- the weird boot sequence happens randomly and not so often but still happens from time to time with no apparent reason.
- my other pc spec are down in my signature
- the reason im over-worried is that my old rig used to do the same thing and suddenly one day it just died totaly, didnt know if it was a cpu or motherboard issue cz i just threw it and bought this new rig and i dont want to also die on me (that pc was intel i7 4770k with a gigabyte sniper g1 mobo)

please advice guys.

Try changing your Attempt Fast Boot, Attempt Fast Cold Boot and DRAM Training to these.

    
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Try changing your Attempt Fast Boot, Attempt Fast Cold Boot and DRAM Training to these.


do so by-passes ram alignment and can result in an unstable boot even after demonstrating stability with training enabled.
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i noticed that sometimes, and sometimes only as it boots normally mostly; that when i switch on the pc (cold start) it starts for a second or two, then turns off for just a little while then turns on again and boots normally, and it works perfectly fine afterwards for gaming or what ever i use it for, is this weird boot sequence okay or normal?

Hello

This is normal for a cold start scenario.
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do so by-passes ram alignment and can result in an unstable boot even after demonstrating stability with training enabled.

Not sure what you are saying, Jpm, but with my G.Skill DDR4 3000 at 3200 I boot fine with these settings and always have every channel. If I put them on Auto or disabled I get the same scenario as what the person is describing.

If these settings fix the cold boot trouble and your RAM is stable and finding every channel why would it not be an option.

And a PC should not start, turn off, then start again on a cold boot. This isn't normal. drool.gif
    
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Not sure what you are saying, Jpm, but with my G.Skill DDR4 3000 at 3200 I boot fine with these settings and always have every channel. If I put them on Auto or disabled I get the same scenario as what the person is describing.

If these settings fix the cold boot trouble and your RAM is stable and finding every channel why would it not be an option.

And a PC should not start, turn off, then start again on a cold boot. This isn't normal. drool.gif

Hello

The first part of the above must be the result of a misunderstanding of what these settings actually do. And the double start on cold boot, if the phrase is being used properly, has been normal for the last several platforms.
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Is manual memory tuning in bios better than XMP with bios 1801? ive been using XMP for awhile now but am wanting to fine tweak things further to attain 4.6 stable over my 4.5.

Im running 32GB gskill ripjaws 2400
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Not sure what you are saying, Jpm, but with my G.Skill DDR4 3000 at 3200 I boot fine with these settings and always have every channel. If I put them on Auto or disabled I get the same scenario as what the person is describing.

If these settings fix the cold boot trouble and your RAM is stable and finding every channel why would it not be an option.

And a PC should not start, turn off, then start again on a cold boot. This isn't normal. drool.gif

the double-pump on cold boot is very common, and as Praz said, certain configs will do it everytime
The fast boot Enabled thing, (esp cold fast boot) skips some ram alignment steps (thats why it's fast AFAIK). So... over time, alignment drifts and stability is lost. this relates to adjustments we have no/little control over. Praz is waaay more knowledgeable than me on this for sure.
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Is manual memory tuning in bios better than XMP with bios 1801? ive been using XMP for awhile now but am wanting to fine tweak things further to attain 4.6 stable over my 4.5.

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Memory stability including VCCSA should be dialed in as much as possible and even then ideally training should be left enabled. Sometimes if users are finding sporadic training failure rarely, it helps to disable this.

I'm not sure you could call that an ideal scenario though, I do not think there is one.
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Memory stability including VCCSA should be dialed in as much as possible and even then ideally training should be left enabled. Sometimes if users are finding sporadic training failure rarely, it helps to disable this.

I'm not sure you could call that an ideal scenario though, I do not think there is one.

yeah, I have not yet disabled it. long tern consequence of leaving it enabled (and the stress of training) is unknown to me. redface.gif
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the double-pump on cold boot is very common, and as Praz said, certain configs will do it everytime
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yes - always. smile.gif

Time to admit I'm wrong. Don't have the issue with the double boot but I disabled the cold boots and kept training on. If I don't set the RAM to 2133 first boot after changing fast boots etc. I get the black screen with the curser, won't boot. But going into the bios and putting the RAM back to 3200 on first reboot and I'm fine after that. redface.gif
    
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Intel Core i7 5960X Asus Sabertooth X99 Gigabyte 1080 Ti Founders Edition Corsair LPX 
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1.2TB Intel 750 PCI-E SSD 2TB Western Digital Black EKWB Predator 360 With One Titan X In Loop. Windows 10 Anniversary Edition 
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Acer XB280HK 4K Gsync QNIX QX2710 LED 27" WQHD 2560x1440 Corsair AX1500i Thermaltake Core X9 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 5960X Asus Sabertooth X99 Gigabyte 1080 Ti Founders Edition Corsair LPX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
1.2TB Intel 750 PCI-E SSD 2TB Western Digital Black EKWB Predator 360 With One Titan X In Loop. Windows 10 Anniversary Edition 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer XB280HK 4K Gsync QNIX QX2710 LED 27" WQHD 2560x1440 Corsair AX1500i Thermaltake Core X9 
MouseMouse Pad
MadKatz R.A.T. 8 Zowie 
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