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Originally Posted by tistou77 View Post

Exactly the same config and bios setting yet
went from 2101 to 3202
that's strange. Win10. Win7 seems to have a slow boot on the 3xxx for me anyway.
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OK, I was hoping that Mode 1 would be the golden spanner.

Looking at one of your BIOS screen shots, Memory section is reporting:

Vol_CHAB : 1.359
Vol_CHCD : 1.350

This is the voltage for your RAM, we are going to increase it slightly.

Go to:
Extreme Tweaker -> Page down a few times -> DRAM Voltage(CHA, CHB) : Set 1.360
Extreme Tweaker -> Page down a few times -> DRAM Voltage(CHC, CHD) : Set 1.365

Go to:
Extreme Tweaker -> DRAM Timing Control -> Page down a few times -> DRAM Eventual Voltage(CHA, CHB) : Set 1.360
Extreme Tweaker -> DRAM Timing Control -> Page down a few times -> DRAM Eventual Voltage(CHC, CHD) : Set 1.365

Go to:
Extreme Tweaker -> DRAM Timing Control -> Page down a few times ->

Memory Optimize Control : Enabled
Enhanced Training (CHA): Enabled
Enhanced Training (CHB): Enabled
Enhanced Training (CHC): Enabled
Enhanced Training (CHD): Enabled
MemTest: Enabled
Attempt Fastboot: Disabled
DRAM Training: Enabled


You should try a few different voltages and not too far apart, also try keeping them the voltages the same.

My DDR4-3000 required 1.400 -> 1.410 to retain memory at each boot, work up to this voltage - do not go above it.

check the VSA being applied. INcrease CPU and PCH VCCIO by 1 or 2 notches each.
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Many thanks for your help. I will try again later, for now I give up. I will will come back with updates.
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I need the alternate backplate for the 2011 socket for a water block I got for it, but since I got my board replaced with ASUS I don't have it. Ordered one on eBay but it won't come for a week and I wanna put it all together.

EDIT: Thankfully, micro center hooked me up from one of their open boxes!!!
Edited by RGSPro - 6/22/16 at 11:16am
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Public service announcement, in case anyone has missed it:

If you are having *any* crashing, BSOD's, A2 qcodes, etc. after flashing any of the 3xxx BIOS's (or reverting back from them to 2101 or earlier)... and the last time you flashed you got the "BIOS is updating" reboots which indicate that a firmware update was done... I strongly, strongly recommend reflashing your current BIOS, over itself, so that the process can complete without needing to do any firmware update reboots.

I've been giving this advice based on my own experience of going back and forth between 3101 and 2101 many times. It's not always necessary, sometimes it goes fine, but it seems like about 25% of the time something goes wrong with the flash if firmware updates are involved. Flashing the BIOS over itself doesn't need any reboots, generally goes quickly, and so far the reported success rate in resolving problems with this method has been *really* high.
    
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Public service announcement, in case anyone has missed it:

If you are having *any* crashing, BSOD's, A2 qcodes, etc. after flashing any of the 3xxx BIOS's (or reverting back from them to 2101 or earlier)... and the last time you flashed you got the "BIOS is updating" reboots which indicate that a firmware update was done... I strongly, strongly recommend reflashing your current BIOS, over itself, so that the process can complete without needing to do any firmware update reboots.

I've been giving this advice based on my own experience of going back and forth between 3101 and 2101 many times. It's not always necessary, sometimes it goes fine, but it seems like about 25% of the time something goes wrong with the flash if firmware updates are involved. Flashing the BIOS over itself doesn't need any reboots, generally goes quickly, and so far the reported success rate in resolving problems with this method has been *really* high.

Hello

Double or triple flashing is rarely needed although should cause no harm. In such cases when it is needed the cause is normally the result of a corrupted download, issues with the media the BIOS file is read from or system instability. The claimed success rate is more likely due to wild assumptions or the inexperience of the user
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Hello

Double or triple flashing is rarely needed although should cause no harm. In such cases when it is needed the cause is normally the result of a corrupted download, issues with the media the BIOS file is read from or system instability. The claimed success rate is more likely due to wild assumptions or the inexperience of the user

Hi Praz.

Anything is possible, of course. But in my particular case, as I said, about 1 in 4 of my travels back and forth between the 2xxx and 3xxx BIOS's resulted in crashing or other issues, and reflashing resolved it. As far as what these issues are "normally the result of":
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In such cases when it is needed the cause is normally the result of a corrupted download,

I only downloaded each of these BIOS files once, so if that was the issue, I would have had the same issue upon reflash (in fact, I never touched the R5E.CAP file on the USB stick between the original flash and reflash). I would think that's probably the case with most of the reported successes too.
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issues with the media the BIOS file is read from

I used the same media on all flashes.
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or system instability.

I invariably clear CMOS before flashing. It's kind of hard to forget with the Clear CMOS button being *right next to* the ROG Connect button, heh. That was a wise design choice, by the way!

Also, in all 3 of my cases where I resolved it by reflashing, I reloaded my BIOS settings from a .CMO created during the original bad flash, so my BIOS settings were the same both before and after reflash.

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The claimed success rate is more likely due to wild assumptions or the inexperience of the user

Not sure what wild assumptions could be at play here. As for inexperience, I've probably flashed at least 30 to 40 times on this particular board alone, trying every version from 1701 on up. The only time I've had issues that needed to be resolved by a reflash is about 25% of the dozen or so flashes that involved firmware updates after the 3xxx release (in both directions - it can happen downgrading from 3xxx back to 2101 as well). I've received about 6 reports across various boards that reflashing *did* resolve a lot of BSOD and crashing issues, and those threads might still very likely be continuing (or RMA's sent in) were it not for this advice, so I suspect it's in everyone's interest, including ASUS, to not discourage the provided resolution, at least if ASUS isn't willing to check or test the firmware update procedure to verify whether or not there actually is an issue. I can understand it might be very difficult to track down, considering it doesn't seem to happen consistently... as I said, in my case, about 3 out of a dozen or so times. Admittedly a small sample size, but still a non-trivial error rate that doesn't seem likely to be caused by human error in what is effectively a very simple procedure with very few steps that could be potentially screwed up.
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Meh, I'm gonna stay on 1701. "If it's not broken, don't fix it." biggrin.gif
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I switched on the 3202 (although I not needed) to adjust my OC
I guess the Rampage V edition 10 is "based" on these bios, so I already have a basis for my settings biggrin.gif
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You are going for Broadwell-E titsou77?
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Kimir:

IMO the 3xxx BIOS are worth the trouble. Consistent 4k higher read speeds per Aida benchmark. With my XMP settings i got 58k reads under 2101. Under 3101 and 3202 same settings gets me over 62k. That's enough to compensate me for going back to XMP settings for maximum stability.
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