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post #11441 of 16010
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Can I get a comparison between the Sabertooth / Pro 3.1 / Deluxe 3.1, which would be the best option?

I don't mind prices. I have 4 x 16gb gskill ddr4 sticks bought

I am trying to get two m.2's in raid 0, and run two graphics cards @ x16/x16

Deluxe has way better VRM so if you plan on oc go for it. If youre in europe get x99-s, which has same VRM as deluxe but less trinkets like wifi, etc
post #11442 of 16010
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Can I get a comparison between the Sabertooth / Pro 3.1 / Deluxe 3.1, which would be the best option?

I don't mind prices. I have 4 x 16gb gskill ddr4 sticks bought

I am trying to get two m.2's in raid 0, and run two graphics cards @ x16/x16
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Deluxe has way better VRM so if you plan on oc go for it. If youre in europe get x99-s, which has same VRM as deluxe but less trinkets like wifi, etc



Yes, I am trying to OC 5930k to 4.5/4.6 GHz, I am in USA, so I guess I will try to get the Asus Deluxe. There's so much extra stuff, but I'll probably only use that M.2 card.

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Yes, I am trying to OC 5930k to 4.5/4.6 GHz, I am in USA, so I guess I will try to get the Asus Deluxe. There's so much extra stuff, but I'll probably only use that M.2 card.
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why try to raid M.2 cards? It's really diminishing returns with a software raid (unless you are setting up a fault tolerant array, eg raid 1). Any PCIE NVMe drive will deliver reads/writes/copy faster than any daily software will ask.. except for specific disk benchmarks. If you really need the fast loads, get 32GB of ram and set up a ram disk. thumb.gif
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Yeah might just set them up as separate drives, but I want two 500gb m.2 biggrin.gif
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I think I may be on to something... It has to do with adaptive voltages..... I am still trying to figure it out but I'll report back later on

Quoting myself biggrin.gif but i wanted to report some of my findings .... maybe some other users here can confirm it .....

So here is what was causing the freezes or at least what i think it was ..... I first went to find my max stable core clock with manual voltages .... I settled on 4.4@ 1.200v 1.90 VCCIN .. i will go further once my loop is back up running i am using the H240X for testing purposes .... I really did not bother to overclock the cache since from what i know of really does not help much at all maybe in benches but here is where the whole problem rellies .....

I was able to replicate the exact same problem on my second Deluxe board since when i switched to adaptive manually entered Vcore and all of the voltages(Vcsa Input Disabled cpu SVID ) and the left the cache voltage on auto since i was running at stock speeds ... Well it turns out that the problem is that the cache voltage is wayyyy to low and causes the system to freeze whenever i enable XMP or manually set the timmings and voltages at the next boot ..... Switched to offset cache and gave it a little bump and voila no more freezes....

So here is where i am at .... I got a clean boot then went to overclock the RAM this kit i am using is a launch Ripjaws 4 16GB 2400Mhz XMP .... I was able to work on the weekend with this sticks on my z170 board and i got them up to 2800Mhz Cl14 1T so i can have a base to work on the x99 board ... this is my office rig so i cant afford so many crashes .... I went conservative and used CL15 and 2T with 2800Mhz .... Again got a clean boot and went up to windows .... It works for a bit maybe 10-20 min then freezes again mad.gif .... Ok so back to the BIOS upped the ram volts and lasted a bit longer but still freezes ..... I now switched back to fully manual and there has been no more freezes but left the cache voltage on auto which the board sets it to 1.20 I know it is overkill but until i can find a cache voltage that works at nights i cant afford all of the crashes and downtime ....

So if anyone can help me confirm the issue here is what is needed to be done :
1.- Switch to Adaptive and enter your stable voltages ... Same thing for Vccin SA and other voltages just leave the Cache voltage on auto and try to run your RAM at higher speeds maybe you can replicate the problem on your board ???

And how much volts do you think i need to run the cache at stock settings ??? Offset +.150 which was .950 was no good for stock clocks.....

Hopefully someone can help me verify this issue on another board.
Edited by shremi - 2/29/16 at 12:14pm
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shremi,

Cache is so super fast, it spends a portion of its time waiting for information from the CPU and RAM. When both the CPU and the RAM are overclocked, the Cache now is fed information faster, allowing it do its job without waiting around as much. Stock Cache Voltage is designed around a 3.5ish core and 2133 C16 memory...it is not uncommon at all to see that it needs a bit more voltage to stabilize under the new work requirements. My -A board also kicks the VCache up to 1.2 with auto settings when core is overclocked to 4.5, but cache is left at stock multiplier.
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shremi,

Cache is so super fast, it spends a portion of its time waiting for information from the CPU and RAM. When both the CPU and the RAM are overclocked, the Cache now is fed information faster, allowing it do its job without waiting around as much. Stock Cache Voltage is designed around a 3.5ish core and 2133 C16 memory...it is not uncommon at all to see that it needs a bit more voltage to stabilize under the new work requirements. My -A board also kicks the VCache up to 1.2 with auto settings when core is overclocked to 4.5, but cache is left at stock multiplier.

Yeah i know i just wanted to point out that if you leave the cache on auto when switching to adaptive mode it defaults so low that the whole pc freezes ..... maybe a bug in the bios???
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Yeah i know i just wanted to point out that if you leave the cache on auto when switching to adaptive mode it defaults so low that the whole pc freezes ..... maybe a bug in the bios???

when you switch core to adaptive, set cache to manual or offset and then to Auto voltage if that's what you want. Else, load opt defaults, enter bios, note the Vcache. Add offset on top of that. If you want to check in windows, use AID64. thumb.gif
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Hello

Can someone comment on this ? Sabertooth vs Deluxe on the VRM side.. which one has better VRM ?
   
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Hello

Can someone comment on this ? Sabertooth vs Deluxe on the VRM side.. which one has better VRM ?

The Rampage V Extreme. wink.gif
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