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you list is fine. I would add x265 (AVX2), and HCI memtest to it.


OCCT Linpack AVX capable?


I'm thiking of getting a Predator 360 from micro center to replace the D15, seems like the D15 isn't holding up if I push more than 1.22v

What do you think? Is the Predator 360 good or should I buy an EK kit?


EK Kit 360 (not sure if this is the latest version)

http://www.microcenter.com/product/449342/L360_Water_Cooling_Kit



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http://www.microcenter.com/product/455365/EK-XLC_Predator_LGA-2011_Screw_Set
http://www.microcenter.com/product/455957/EK-XLC_Predator_360_Water_Cooling_System
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OCCT Linpack AVX capable?


I'm thiking of getting a Predator 360 from micro center to replace the D15, seems like the D15 isn't holding up if I push more than 1.22v

What do you think? Is the Predator 360 good or should I buy an EK kit?


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http://www.microcenter.com/product/449342/L360_Water_Cooling_Kit



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http://www.microcenter.com/product/455365/EK-XLC_Predator_LGA-2011_Screw_Set
http://www.microcenter.com/product/455957/EK-XLC_Predator_360_Water_Cooling_System

If you perfer to buy a kit, rather than separate components.. get the EK kit.
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If you perfer to buy a kit, rather than separate components.. get the EK kit.

How much temp decrease would buying separate WC component do compared to getting the 360 predator?

From an efficiency standpoint, would you still recommend custom or buy the EK?
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How much temp decrease would buying separate WC component do compared to getting the 360 predator?

From an efficiency standpoint, would you still recommend custom or buy the EK?

either way. EK stuff is very good. There are better rads, etc.
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They use pretty much the same parts for the two.

I own the predator myself and I can say that its much more like a custom loop than a AIO, all custom loop parts and whatnot.
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How much temp decrease would buying separate WC component do compared to getting the 360 predator?

From an efficiency standpoint, would you still recommend custom or buy the EK?

You need to find someone who has run both on the same hardware to make a meaningful comparison, although you might be able to extrapalate it from comparisons to other AIO coolers. The problem is a custom loop can come in almost any configuration, from monstrously effective to just passable, depending on the parts chosen. Besides the obvious flexibility in design and part choice, one of bigger performance gains can come in the amount of water you put into the system. A larger capacity reservoir and system gives you the ability to hold more heat at any one moment, particularly compared to smaller AIO coolers.

If you are trying to decide between the Predator and a building your own loop, you may wish to investigate the predator further. Unlike other AIO coolers, it does require maintenance, it is very thick and difficult to fit, and only allows fans in the pull position. It is almost twice the price of a 280mm AIO cooler, and you can probably get a starter kit for just slightly more that would allow you more choices and a dedicated larger reservoir. Maintenance and cost are the two biggest drawbacks to building your own loop. The Predator doesn't really score points in either category.

I am not sure what you mean by efficiency. Watts removed/Pump + Fan power draw? Temp delta/$$ spent? I am not a big fan of those metrics anyway, particualry in a hobby industry where choices are made for many other reasons. Calculating performance/$ ratios on a $3000 system seems silly.
Edited by XTAC - 6/10/16 at 5:20pm
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You need to find someone who has run both on the same hardware to make a meaningful comparison, although you might be able to extrapalate it from comparisons to other AIO coolers. The problem is a custom loop can come in almost any configuration, from monstrously effective to just passable, depending on the parts chosen. Besides the obvious flexibility in design and part choice, one of bigger performance gains can come in the amount of water you put into the system. A larger capacity reservoir and system gives you the ability to hold more heat at any one moment, particularly compared to smaller AIO coolers.

If you are trying to decide between the Predator and a building your own loop, you may wish to investigate the predator further. Unlike other AIO coolers, it does require maintenance, it is very thick and difficult to fit, and only allows fans in the pull position. It is almost twice the price of a 280mm AIO cooler, and you can probably get a starter kit for just slightly more that would allow you more choices and a dedicated larger reservoir. Maintenance and cost are the two biggest drawbacks to building your own loop. The Predator doesn't really score points in either category.

I am not sure what you mean by efficiency. Watts removed/Pump + Fan power draw? Temp delta/$$ spent? I am not a big fan of those metrics anyway, particualry in a hobby industry where choices are made for many other reasons. Calculating performance/$ ratios on a $3000 system seems silly.

unless the performance is REALLY poor. wink.gif
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I used the Alphacool 360 ddc/xt for my build and it works very nicely. I only have a single Bay reservoir, because I have the other 2 bays used up, but it would probably work a little better with the 2 Bay reservoir.
 
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OCCT Linpack AVX capable?


I'm thiking of getting a Predator 360 from micro center to replace the D15, seems like the D15 isn't holding up if I push more than 1.22v

What do you think? Is the Predator 360 good or should I buy an EK kit?


EK Kit 360 (not sure if this is the latest version)

http://www.microcenter.com/product/449342/L360_Water_Cooling_Kit



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http://www.microcenter.com/product/455365/EK-XLC_Predator_LGA-2011_Screw_Set
http://www.microcenter.com/product/455957/EK-XLC_Predator_360_Water_Cooling_System

I'm quite happy with my 360. Had my 5960x at 1.328v CPU, 1.256v cache and 1.39v memory with a Titan X with a maxed out voltage bios in the loop and I'd hover around 70c and never go over 76c. My Corsair H110i GT I'd go just over 80c with no GPU in the loop. biggrin.gif
    
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either way. EK stuff is very good. There are better rads, etc.

Ok, so not much difference between kit and predator.



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You need to find someone who has run both on the same hardware to make a meaningful comparison, although you might be able to extrapalate it from comparisons to other AIO coolers. The problem is a custom loop can come in almost any configuration, from monstrously effective to just passable, depending on the parts chosen. Besides the obvious flexibility in design and part choice, one of bigger performance gains can come in the amount of water you put into the system. A larger capacity reservoir and system gives you the ability to hold more heat at any one moment, particularly compared to smaller AIO coolers.

If you are trying to decide between the Predator and a building your own loop, you may wish to investigate the predator further. Unlike other AIO coolers, it does require maintenance, it is very thick and difficult to fit, and only allows fans in the pull position. It is almost twice the price of a 280mm AIO cooler, and you can probably get a starter kit for just slightly more that would allow you more choices and a dedicated larger reservoir. Maintenance and cost are the two biggest drawbacks to building your own loop. The Predator doesn't really score points in either category.

I am not sure what you mean by efficiency. Watts removed/Pump + Fan power draw? Temp delta/$$ spent? I am not a big fan of those metrics anyway, particualry in a hobby industry where choices are made for many other reasons. Calculating performance/$ ratios on a $3000 system seems silly.

I want the temps of the DIY loop to be much lower than what the predator 360 can do. Which I don't think will happen by a significant margin to justify putting together the loop.

How long can the predator be left alone without a maintenance / top up? Is it hard to drain / refill?



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I'm quite happy with my 360. Had my 5960x at 1.328v CPU, 1.256v cache and 1.39v memory with a Titan X with a maxed out voltage bios in the loop and I'd hover around 70c and never go over 76c. My Corsair H110i GT I'd go just over 80c with no GPU in the loop. biggrin.gif

Performance sounds good then.
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