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unless the performance is REALLY poor. wink.gif

That's true. Every consumer does some sort of valuation on performance gain vs cost -- yes/no, I will spend $1000 to gain 3 fps. I was thinking of those two or three websites that list 10 products and take some measurement most people don't really have a handle on (watts/joules/Delta over ambient temp) and then divide it into the MRSP of the whole list that only has a $20 range from top to bottom. The resulting table of decimals assumes you value $1 the same as 1 unit of something else.
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Ok, so not much difference between kit and predator.
I want the temps of the DIY loop to be much lower than what the predator 360 can do. Which I don't think will happen by a significant margin to justify putting together the loop.

The sky is the limit when spending on a custom loop. Maybe the better question is how does the predator compare to the EK 360 Kit. I think that is the product Kedar is referring to and he has provided a comparison with a popular 280mm cooler.
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How long can the predator be left alone without a maintenance / top up? Is it hard to drain / refill?
Performance sounds good then.

I have seen some flattering reviews of the performance. This one is not so flattering by the numbers. It comes in worse than H110i GT by a few degrees. So between that and KedarWolf's information, you have a pretty good picture of the difference between the kit and the Predator.
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Ok, I'm back to this thread again after going through an X99 Deluxe, then moved on to an RVE, and today I ordered an X99-II Deluxe. I'm assuming owners of the X99-II are also using this thread since I didn't see another thread for an X99 Deluxe.

I've been working on a new build for so long, by the time it's up and running everything will be outdated. I decided to buy EK Coolstream XE rads (2 x 480mm & a 360mm), but I had to buy a replacement 360 rad, so far, because these Coolstream XE rads, which only have 4 ports on them, come with G1/4 extenders on 2 of the ports. I'm not sure if anyone has used these rads, but you're not supposed to remove the extenders or the rad will leak from the shroud. I was able to find some of my extenders and haven't had any leaks since from my 2 x 480mm rads up top, but today I had a puddle under my rig. So, tomorrow my Asus X99-II is supposed to come in. I was hoping to find a MB similar in design to the RVE because I really don't want to have to redo all of my acrylic tubing. I have a VRM waterblock and a chipset waterblock on my RVE, but does anyone know if these will fit the X99-II? I'm thinking that only my CPU and waterblock will be interchangeable. I don't want to get my hopes up. I'm also running 2 x Gigabyte 980 Ti Gaming G1 GPUs in SLI and again, I didn't want to have to redo all of my acrylic tubing, but from what I can tell, the same PCIe slots are used.

Tomorrow will be a big day with my new MB coming in. I'm hoping everything works fine when I swap out these MBs. The slide out MB tray in my CaseLabs TH10A is a good idea in theory, but when you have tubing running all around the case, it's still not an easy task to remove the tray. If I install this X99-II tomorrow and it doesn't post, I'm buying a Dell. smile.gif
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The sky is the limit when spending on a custom loop. Maybe the better question is how does the predator compare to the EK 360 Kit. I think that is the product Kedar is referring to and he has provided a comparison with a popular 280mm cooler.
I have seen some flattering reviews of the performance. This one is not so flattering by the numbers. It comes in worse than H110i GT by a few degrees. So between that and KedarWolf's information, you have a pretty good picture of the difference between the kit and the Predator.

Loop is L360, EK says it's the entry series

http://www.microcenter.com/product/449342/L360_Water_Cooling_Kit






Predator 360

http://www.microcenter.com/product/455957/EK-XLC_Predator_360_Water_Cooling_System
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How much temp decrease would buying separate WC component do compared to getting the 360 predator?

From an efficiency standpoint, would you still recommend custom or buy the EK?

This is my temp log with my 360 while running RealBench, HWInfoLog.zip 6k .zip file and my voltages for my 5930k, which are definitely on the high side. Also I have a maxed out voltage Titan X in the loop as I said before.

If I lower my RAM timings a notch and use 1.075v VCSSA instead of 1.15v (As high as you can go without going purple in BIOS). I get temps hovering around 65-70C with rest of the voltages the same. I hover around 70-74C even with the much higher VCSSA. biggrin.gif

I'm using cheap thermal paste though, I ran out of Grizzley Kryonaut before i installed this CPU. Likely get 2-3C better temps with it. redface.gif
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This is my temp log with my 360 while running RealBench and my voltages for my 5930k, which are definitely on the high side. Also I have a maxed out voltage Titan X in the loop as I said before.

If I lower my RAM timings a notch and use 1.075v VCSSA instead of 1.15v (As high as you can go without going purple in BIOS). I get temps hovering around 65-70C with rest of the voltages the same. I hover around 70-74C even with the much higher VCSSA. biggrin.gif

I'm using cheap thermal paste though, I ran out of Grizzley Kryonaut before i installed this CPU. Likely get 2-3C better temps with it. redface.gif

Fixed CVS Log here. Removed everything but temps, all voltages the same except for 1.075 VCSSAs. Temps around 68-72C.

2.zip 6k .zip file
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Guys what do you think about these voltage settings - if it's not a placebo effect, my USB lag/freezing problem solved after these adjustmenst. When playing BF4 - my TV missile (attack heli or boat) never turn left right - after these I can control easily.



will try with latest bios.
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I was testing my replacement X99-Deluxe board and I had some weird issues with Broadwell-E. When I boot I would get an A2 error and it would stay in the splash screen forever. When I try to get into the bios it would go into the bios and then lock up. The rare times I make it into the OS I would get WHEA (124) errors as if I was overclocking but in stock.

I still have my 5820k haswell-e processor, and the board gets none of those issues with this processor installed.

This is all happening with the latest bios installed.

I wonder if there are still compatibility issues with the original X99 deluxe and broadwell e?
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Sounds like memory instability.
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Sounds like memory instability.

Hey Raja, I got the fan extension card working but have some issues.

I connected a pair of Gentle Typhoon using a 3pin splitter, but they do not seem to go below 60% (invalid range/value when set below 60%) even with fan calibration. EZ fan mode doesn't show the fan extension speed and the only way to control it is through advanced -> monitor.

Any idea on how this can be fixed?

ASUS X99 Deluxe bios 3101, fan extension card with 1 pair of DC fans and 3 thermistor connected.
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