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What drivers are we supposed to use for the sSATA controller on these X99 boards? Asus has only one type of SATA driver on my board's page; the standard RST driver*. That installs fine for the regular SATA controller, but it isn't accepted by the sSATA controller.

The sSATA controller accepts Intel's RSTe enterprise drivers, but they seem to result in some weird behavior for me. For one, they kill sequential writes in ASSSD and seem to hang the benchmark. They also result in weird Event Viewer errors, and I think they might be causing my hanging during startup. I see that you can install the RSTe drivers for the standard RST controller too, but with all the same side effects.

The default Windows drivers have predictably terrible performance, so I'd like to use something else, but what?

*on a side note, why does asus include 13.X for Win7/8 and 14.x for Win10 in those standard RST drivers? Why wouldn't I use 14.X drivers in Windows 7?
Exactly what weird behavior?
you should just install the standard SATA achi drivers (win 10 works fine), if the board has Asmedia posts, install the ASM drivers also. Install IRST only if you want to use th eintel driver for raid, otherwise I have no issues mixing a win7 ssd raid 0 and a Samsung 950 NVMe on this board. THe 950 seems to work better without the samsung driver.
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I noticed they changed/added a description actually to the X99A-II 1101 Bios too for Power Management though I didn't notice
anything in particular while in the Bios , but I am not delving deeply into some of that stuff myself , assuming there is anything
to actually "see" ?

I am still getting the MTRR Error in The Event Log every time the Computer goes to Sleep though and so usually reboot due
to the warning impacting Performance it gives.

Description:
The system firmware has changed the processor's memory type range registers (MTRRs) across a sleep state transition (S4). This can result in reduced resume performance
.

The New 1101 Bios and a newly created Raid0 Array did not help the Problem of the Raid0 HDDs being seen as SSD's. For whatever
reason only Drivers below 13.xxxx can do it , so I am using 12.9.4.1000 on the system now.

I am still testing but I think my Voltages are able to be a little lower for the same OC with 1101 though and my Dimm voltages now match each other in the bios.
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oops IE issues double post

Thanks for the 2 e-mails - that'll teach you for using IE smile.gif

Nothing unusual after the update so far, currently on my previous 24/7 config (4600 / 3800 / DDR4-3400 w. tweaks). Booted nicely from my previous RAID 0 system volume. Will try some stuff later on. thumb.gif
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if the board has Asmedia posts, install the ASM drivers also

I'm only talking about the two Intel controllers on the X99 PCH. There are no third party controllers on this board.
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Exactly what weird behavior?

Like I said, ASSSD benchmarks are messed up with the RSTe (iaStorB) driver. It returns a terrible seq write score, then it shows ~2-3MB/s on the 4K write and sits on that test for ages (at which point I abort the benchmark):

DpvYe5R.png

This is the same drive on the other controller with the normal RST (iaStorA):

Dyzd0MB.png

However I can''t install that driver on the sSATA controller.

The second problem with the RSTe drivers is the iaStorA/B Event 143 errors that appear in the event viewer when they are installed:

"The device \Device\RaidPort1 is attempting to use more than 8 buses, which exceeds the supported maximum. Please refer to the latest documentation from your storage controller manufacturer to determine whether this device and driver are designed to work on this operating system."

The third problem is that once every ~7 times booting windows, the process will freeze on the "Starting Windows" screen before the spiral color animation starts.
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you should just install the standard SATA achi drivers (win 10 works fine)

I can't use the standard RST drivers, because the sSATA controller won't accept them. They only work with the primary controller (the one that supports RAID).
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Install IRST only if you want to use th eintel driver for raid.

I'm using AHCI, not RAID, but I'm talking about installing the drivers only, not the full RST packages with the storage manager.
Edited by Oubadah - 10/9/16 at 5:00pm
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Thanks for the 2 e-mails - that'll teach you for using IE smile.gif

Nothing unusual after the update so far, currently on my previous 24/7 config (4600 / 3800 / DDR4-3400 w. tweaks). Booted nicely from my previous RAID 0 system volume. Will try some stuff later on. thumb.gif

Sorry , I was using Brave on another Forum and it was having issues so opened IE , since Don't like Edge and it was acting really weird here unlike Brave does. I guess the Webmaster optimises for Chrome/Mozilla smile.gif

RB 2.44 score seems a bit lower though , perhaps in the 3000 point range?

So weird I have the Raid Array issue and even a Clean win10 install and New Array did not fix it , I am now thinking it has something to do with the Intel RAID OROM version 14.8.0.2377 , so I hope it get updated in the next Bios , what version is the OROM on the Strix ? just wondering if that is the difference ? the 14.8 drivers should work best with the 14.8 OROM but not for me.....


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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

if the board has Asmedia posts, install the ASM drivers also

I'm only talking about the two Intel controllers on the X99 PCH. There are no third party controllers on this board.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

Exactly what weird behavior?

Like I said, ASSSD benchmarks are messed up with the RSTe (iaStorB) driver. It returns a terrible seq write score, then it shows ~2-3MB/s on the 4K write and sits on that test for ages (at which point I abort the benchmark):

DpvYe5R.png

This is the same drive on the other controller with the normal RST (iaStorA):

Dyzd0MB.png

However I can''t install that driver on the sSATA controller.

The second problem with the RSTe drivers is the iaStorA/B Event 143 errors that appear in the event viewer when they are installed:

"The device \Device\RaidPort1 is attempting to use more than 8 buses, which exceeds the supported maximum. Please refer to the latest documentation from your storage controller manufacturer to determine whether this device and driver are designed to work on this operating system."

The third problem is that once every ~7 times booting windows, the process will freeze on the "Starting Windows" screen before the spiral color animation starts.
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

you should just install the standard SATA achi drivers (win 10 works fine)

I can't use the standard RST drivers, because the sSATA controller won't accept them. They only work with the primary controller (the one that supports RAID).
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

Install IRST only if you want to use th eintel driver for raid.

I'm using AHCI, not RAID, but I'm talking about installing the drivers only, not the full RST packages with the storage manager.


I don't see two different Raid SATA Controllers on my X99A-II , as such in windows , in the Bios there is the one with Raid and one without as you noted , but win 10 sees it all as One Controller so it must be the way that MBoard is setup?

***edit : I misunderstood.... there are two SATA Controllers 4-6 ports are Raid enabled the other 4 are not... and the 2nd one appears under IDE/ATAPI Controllers

But AFAIK if you OROM is in the 14.x.x.x Series in the bios you use the standard RSTdrivers (on the MB Webpage) , if the MB had a 3.x or 4.x OROM you USE the RSTe Enterprise Driver Series in the same number range.....

At least that is my understanding from the WinRaid Forum. the table at the bottom of the 1st post here is a good way to keep upto date usually....

http://www.win-raid.com/t25f23-Which-are-the-quot-best-quot-Intel-AHCI-RAID-drivers.html


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I don't see two different SATA Controllers on my X99A-II , as such in windows , in the Bios there is the one with Raid and one without as you noted , but win 10 sees it all as One Controller so it must be the way that MBoard is setup?

I definitely have the two controllers separately visible within Windows. Looks like this if I install RST for SATA and RSTe for sSATA:



And this if I install RSTe for both:



If a controller has no drive connected to it, then you don't see it.
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I'm only talking about the two Intel controllers on the X99 PCH. There are no third party controllers on this board.
Like I said, ASSSD benchmarks are messed up with the RSTe (iaStorB) driver. It returns a terrible seq write score, then it shows ~2-3MB/s on the 4K write and sits on that test for ages (at which point I abort the benchmark):
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
DpvYe5R.png
This is the same drive on the other controller with the normal RST (iaStorA):
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Dyzd0MB.png

However I can''t install that driver on the sSATA controller.

The second problem with the RSTe drivers is the iaStorA/B Event 143 errors that appear in the event viewer when they are installed:

"The device \Device\RaidPort1 is attempting to use more than 8 buses, which exceeds the supported maximum. Please refer to the latest documentation from your storage controller manufacturer to determine whether this device and driver are designed to work on this operating system."

The third problem is that once every ~7 times booting windows, the process will freeze on the "Starting Windows" screen before the spiral color animation starts.
I can't use the standard RST drivers, because the sSATA controller won't accept them. They only work with the primary controller (the one that supports RAID).
I'm using AHCI, not RAID, but I'm talking about installing the drivers only, not the full RST packages with the storage manager.

your WS board has two controllers (as you know). the second controller (black ports7-10) are not compatible with IRST and raid (manual pg 1-25). Uninstall the IRST driver and run only the windows OEM driver. Win10 will load the appropriate driver for the primary ports. It should work that way. if not, install istorA only.
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your WS board has two controllers (as you know). the second controller (black ports7-10) are not compatible with IRST or raid (manual pg 1-25). Uninstall the IRST driver and run only the windows OEM driver. Win10 will load the appropriate driver for the primary ports. It should work that way.

Windows 7 (I'm not using 10, but IIRC it uses the same driver anyway) uses a driver from 2006, and the performance is awful.

What do you mean "primary ports"?
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Windows 7 (I'm not using 10, but IIRC it uses the same driver anyway) uses a driver from 2006, and the performance awful.

What do you mean "primary ports"?
IDK bud, you shgould use the win7 driver on the ASUS support page...
Disable sata controller 2 in bios, load the driver that works for Sata controller 1, reboot and then switch on sata controller 2 with a blank drive connected, do not load any driver for it. Either let the updater search the web or insert the DVD/usb that came with the board, open dev mngr select controller 2, properties, update driver and let it pull the driver from the dvd/usb. If the OEM driver does not work, then finding one that does is gonna be a trial and error campaign.
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IDK bud, you shgould use the win7 driver on the ASUS support page...

That's what I'm using for the primary SATA controller. That driver is incompatible with the secondary "sSATA" controller.
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Disable sata controller 2 in bios, load the driver that works for Sata controller 1, reboot and then switch on sata controller 2 with a blank drive connected, do not load any driver for it. Either let the updater search the web or insert the DVD/usb that came with the board, open dev mngr select controller 2, properties, update driver and let it pull the driver from the dvd/usb. If the OEM driver does not work, then finding one that does is gonna be a trial and error campaign.

In your case, what driver did you end up with on the sSATA controller?

My default:
Microsoft
21/06/2006
6.1.7601.18231

and the device is called "Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller"
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