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Update:

(1) My Thunderbolt EX3 card still doesn't work in my X99 Deluxe-II. Thunderbolt-equipped drives don't show up in Windows despite booting with them already plugged in (via the USB-C type connector on the EX3), and any regular USB device (such as a thumb drive) plugged into the EX3's USB-A type port gives me a "USB Device not recognized" notification in the system tray. Thunderbolt does show up in Windows Device Manager under System Devices, and in SIV as "0 - powered on," and I see a little Thunderbolt icon in the bottom-right system tray when I boot. But if I double-click it, I see no attached devices.

(2) I got a call back from Asus support! But it wasn't that helpful. The guy seemed nice but not much more knowledgeable than the front-line staffer who initially took my call. He seemed to be implying I had too many PCIE cards, which I don't think I do (40-lane i7-6850K: X16 Titan X + X4 BlackMagic Decklink 4K Mini Monitor + X4 NVMe M.2 Card on PCI-E bus + X4 M.2 Card directly on MoBo = 32...). The first thing he asked me to do was to reduce the link speed of the M.2 which is in PCIEX16_5 to "X2," which is not possible. In the bios you can only choose between X8 and X4. This shook my confidence in how well this guy knew the bios. Then he asked me to do something interesting, which was to reduce the "Wait time in ms after applying Force Pwr" to 150, from its 200 default. That isn't something I've ever read about in any forum. Well, it didn't help. Next step, he asked me to reinstall the Windows drivers (the one year old ones from the Asus EX3 support website). Of course that didn't do anything, and just as I was starting to feel this troubleshooting call going nowhere, my phone dropped the call! And he didn't call back... I don't know if they are planning to call me back or if they've marked my case as "solved" and are washing their hands of it.

(3) Reading reports that the ThunderboltEX2 cards apparently work well, with none of these nightmare issues, I ordered an ASUS ThunderboltEX II Dual Upgrade Card for about $100. Seems like the item is End of Life, so I just panic grabbed one. And to be honest, most of my Thunderbolt devices are Thunderbolt 2 or even 1. And I don't plan on buying into the Tbolt 3 ecosystem. So if this EX II card works for me, I plan on reenacting that scene from Office Space, only I'll be smashing up my EX3 instead of a fax machine...

(4) A guy in the ROG forum got a Gigabyte Thunderbolt 3 add-in card to work with an Asus mobo! https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?91144-ThunderboltEX-3-firmware-update&p=647860&posted=1#post647860

(5) While I wait for my EX2 dual card to arrive, I have a few last-ditch efforts with the Tbolt EX3. One idea is to install a really old BIOS, potentially even the one marked as being from 2015 on the Asus website. This is because many people across the Internets, from Amazon reviews, Newegg reviews, and this ROG forum all report that the EX3 card USED TO work and now it doesn't.

I will update in any case.
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Hi all,

Just writing with an update to close the loop on my Thunderbolt EX3 "journey."

I gave up.

And bought the previous generation ThunderboltEX II/DUAL card.

Which works!


In fact, it's pretty convenient for me to have the "classic" Thunderbolt port. All of the Thunderbolt peripherals (hard drives and Pegasus RAIDs) I currently own have the Mini DisplayPort-shaped cable, and after my Thunderbolt 3 fiasco I will NOT be purchasing ANY device in the Thunderbolt 3 ecosystem.

And with Apple losing mind share with the creative community (hardcore VFX and video people who need high-end GPUs), I doubt Thunderbolt 3 will get much traction anyway.

I also liked the idea of having two Thunderbolt ports, so I could plug in two drives at once (not all drives can daisy chain, such as the LaCie Rugged). But alas, only one of my ports works on the ThunderboltEX II/DUAL actually works.

Sigh.

Whatever, I'm not gonna troubleshoot this one, time to move on with my life.

The X99 Deluxe-II and pack-in Thunderbolt EX 3 card were my first ASUS products. Suffice to say, they will also be my last. The ThunderboltEX II/DUAL card is extremely hard to find now (it's EOL). I found 1 remaining in stock at a Micro Center in Chicago, only available for in store pickup, and I asked a friend to drive over, buy it, and FedEx it to me here in New York. It was marked up to around $150. I'm extremely resentful of ASUS for forcing me to spend that much money to get functionality that was advertised as part of the X99-Deluxe II.

And for what it's worth, the EXII/DUAL card required almost no troubleshooting. I installed the Windows Thunderbolt drivers from ASUS's website with the card already physically installed (a sacrilegious move for EX3 troubleshooters), and the only BIOS change I made was flipping the Thunderbolt switch to "on" in the advanced tab. The AIC card location pointed to where my card already was (SB slot), so no need to change. I didn't modify any parameter. No GPI0 force power, no resource delays, nothing. No changes to my boot tab.

To me, this proves that something is physically defective with the EX3 card itself, or that the EX3 card itself needs a firmware update. Interestingly, the EXII/DUAL has a separate "firmware" update utility on the ASUS website, which seems to be injecting code into the card itself, or at least into the Mobo related to the card. That's probably what ASUS needs to do for the EX3...

Thank you guys so much for all of your help, especially to SpeedyIV.

Jeff

Welcome to the Gave Up Club. Sorry if I lead you down the rabbit hole! You gave it a good fight, as did I. I am glad to hear that the EXT II card is working, albeit partially. I followed your posts on this forum and ROG, and I learned something - it ain't me!! I think you are dead on with that card having a hardware, firmware and, or driver problem that is not user resolveable. I almost started ditzing with it again when you started making some progress. I have reconsidered doing that now. Unlike you, I don't really even have a use for it. I just wanted it hooked up and working because it's a feature I paid for and it should work.

The silence from ASUS is deafening. My guess is there Is not enough strain on the service department. They are probably up to their ears in SMB Bus interlocking issues (or lack thereof) with their AURA software trashing SPD data on LED RAM sticks. AURA and AI Suite both do not interlock properly to the SMB Bus as the developers seem to assume that their software is the only thing running. They have been causing conflicts with Corsair Link, HWiNFO, CPUz, SIV, AIDA, and other utilities that monitor sensor data for years. Now that G.Skill is using the SMB Bus for LED control data, brand new LED RAM kits are getting corrupted at random. It's a mushrooming problem now that blinking RAM is all the rage, and it traverses several manufacturers who are all pointing fingers at each other rather than working together to resolve the problem.

As you know, posts and info about Thunderbolt and ASUS X99 series boards are hard to come by. Most of those Thunderbolt EXT III cards are probably sitting in the box unused. So not many people bugging ASUS about it. I doubt they will ever address the issue and resolve it. Actually, reading X99-Deluxe II reviews on Newegg, I should be happy my MOBO still works at all! Lots of posts from people with way bigger problems than a Thunderbolt card.

But what the heck - ASUS - Any comment?
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disabled turbo mode
however i went back to Aisuite to do a quick OC and got 4.44ghz then turns out ITBM was re-installed again frown.gif
everything is now much smoother though , no black screens after sleep...etc

yeah, disabling turbo mode basically by-passes TB3 since the clocks are not dynamic. I'm pretty sure you want to keep the driver, then just disable the service using msconfig.
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THUNDEROBLT 3 ON ASUS X99 DELUXE II



This is set on a slot pci-e #5 and my Titan Xp on slot pci-e #1 at 16 speed also I have my PCI-e intel 750 NVMe SSD on slot #3 and my (2) U.2 w/ another intel 750 SSD on each and she is working like it should.
Finally I need to test my thunderbolt Display to see if it works, but for that I have an adapter from type C port to thunderbolt mini display port, if I able to get it working I will report and show a short video of my settings and findings, until then ggod luck guys.

Oh by the way I forgot, a while back I had it working before on a different slot. at here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1606782/asus-x99-deluxe-ii-w-thunderbolt-3-thunderbolt-display-working
THUNDERBOLT DISPLAY its been recoqnized




But saddly my display its not working 100%

Edited by The Veterant - 5/9/17 at 5:55pm
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Hey everyone, i have a question... im running an Asus X99 pro USB 3.1 motherboard. ive got 4 sticks of ddr4 (4x4) and for some off reason its only showing that i have 2 sticks installed for a total of 8gb of ram? ummm wth?

i switched sticks and its the same story so all my sticks are working... i also tried changing the dimm slots around and the computer wouldn't even start up and kept giving me a error message 53 (memory initialization error) on my mother board... im not familiar with this issue as Ive never ran into a problem like this. any ideas for me or is it time for me too call in for that warranty replacement with Asus?

thanks

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Originally Posted by Alpina 7 View Post

Hey everyone, i have a question... im running an Asus X99 pro USB 3.1 motherboard. ive got 4 sticks of ddr4 (4x4) and for some off reason its only showing that i have 2 sticks installed for a total of 8gb of ram? ummm wth?

i switched sticks and its the same story so all my sticks are working... i also tried changing the dimm slots around and the computer wouldn't even start up and kept giving me a error message 53 (memory initialization error) on my mother board... im not familiar with this issue as Ive never ran into a problem like this. any ideas for me or is it time for me too call in for that warranty replacement with Asus?

thanks

mad.gif

Is your RAM overclocked or timings tweaked? If yes then probably it is not stable enough to pass training, you might need to adjust Eventual DRAM Voltage further, tone down the overclock/ loosen the timings, or run at XMP/ stock.
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Hey everyone, i have a question... im running an Asus X99 pro USB 3.1 motherboard. ive got 4 sticks of ddr4 (4x4) and for some off reason its only showing that i have 2 sticks installed for a total of 8gb of ram? ummm wth?

i switched sticks and its the same story so all my sticks are working... i also tried changing the dimm slots around and the computer wouldn't even start up and kept giving me a error message 53 (memory initialization error) on my mother board... im not familiar with this issue as Ive never ran into a problem like this. any ideas for me or is it time for me too call in for that warranty replacement with Asus?

thanks

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are you using only the gray slots
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Is your RAM overclocked or timings tweaked? If yes then probably it is not stable enough to pass training, you might need to adjust Eventual DRAM Voltage further, tone down the overclock/ loosen the timings, or run at XMP/ stock.
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are you using only the gray slots

smke is correct. With 4 sticks of ram on the ASUS X99-Pro/USB 3.1 they should be placed into the gray ram sockets.
See page 1-7 of your user manual for recommended memory configurations.
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Originally Posted by Alpina 7 View Post

Hey everyone, i have a question... im running an Asus X99 pro USB 3.1 motherboard. ive got 4 sticks of ddr4 (4x4) and for some off reason its only showing that i have 2 sticks installed for a total of 8gb of ram? ummm wth?

i switched sticks and its the same story so all my sticks are working... i also tried changing the dimm slots around and the computer wouldn't even start up and kept giving me a error message 53 (memory initialization error) on my mother board... im not familiar with this issue as Ive never ran into a problem like this. any ideas for me or is it time for me too call in for that warranty replacement with Asus?

thanks

mad.gif

Also, make sure the MB screws close to the DIMM sockets are not over-tightened. I've been there.
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How many watts can the Fan Extension Card from asus i plan to use 4 pin x 4 fan splitters on it. i was thanking this http://www.performance-pcs.com/gelid-pwm-1-to-4-splitter.html or this http://www.performance-pcs.com/phobya-y-cable-4pin-pwm-to-4x-4pin-pwm-60cm-black.html with these fans http://www.performance-pcs.com/bit-fenix-spectre-pwm-led-fan-series-120mm-blue.html
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The MB fan headers take 1 amp - not sure about the card.
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