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Originally Posted by schoolofmonkey View Post

This is the voltages running AIDA64 stress test:



Now even if I set the vdroop higher I still get the same.
Oh the system is stable at 4.2Ghz now though with the medium vdroop, we just can't figure out why nothing is changing when you raise the vdroop setting.

That's the sort of voltage I'd expect to see at medium LLC.

Not sure why the other settings wouldn't show different load voltages unless MSI's load line calibration options are broken (all the same thing). You may simply not be pulling enough current to make the differences readily apparent.

If possible, measure vinput directly with a multimeter to confirm the idle and load voltages you are reading in software.
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Originally Posted by st0necold View Post

(edited to add.. the pro version with 3.1 won't fit my case.)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157597

Just checked the box it's the damn 3.0

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the board coming tomorrow with the x99 combo is this which has 3.1 but I really wanted the ASRock board... what do you advise?

here's the other board : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130866

Neither of those boards have an OC socket.

I was asking if the ASRock was the USB 3.1 revision because ASRock added an OC socket to those boards. Without one you'll be limited to 3.5-3.7GHz uncore and ultra high memory OCs may not be achiveable. This really isn't a big deal unless you are building the system primarily for benching. Personally, I'm not even using the feature on my X99 SOC Champion as I have reason to believe it contributed to the failure of my first 5820k sample.

A potentially bigger issue is that some of ASRocks boards have a firmware bug that can seriously impact lightly threaded performance in some situations. I'm not sure if the X99X Killer is affected, but even if it is it can be worked around by flashing older firmware.

Anyway, I'd recommend keeping what you've got and sending back the MSI/5930K you ordered for a refund. The ASRock is likely the better board, and if you really need USB 3.1 at some point, you can buy a PCI-E card for it.
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That's the sort of voltage I'd expect to see at medium LLC.

Not sure why the other settings wouldn't show different load voltages unless MSI's load line calibration options are broken (all the same thing). You may simply not be pulling enough current to make the differences readily apparent.

If possible, measure vinput directly with a multimeter to confirm the idle and load voltages you are reading in software.
Neither of those boards have an OC socket.

Nevermind, I think the board needs a BIOS update.
I set it to Enthusiast 100% saved the BIOS, but this time shut down the machine, it applied perfectly.
The only 2 settings that make any differences are Medium 50% and Enthusiast 100%, the rest do nothing..lol..
So it's either a VCCIN of 1.888v or 1.920v nothing in between... biggrin.gif
Guess MSI need to update the BIOS, will submit a ticket with them.



As medium was stable with 4.2Ghz, I might just leave it on that.
Edited by schoolofmonkey - 10/1/15 at 8:57pm
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Are voltage spikes in OCCT anything to worry about?




Bios vcore is set to offset +0.150v for around 1.2vcore and LLC is set to high, VRIN/Input voltage at stock 1.800v

Edit: Also my input voltage seems to drop to 1.7v or so at idle/low load, should that be happening? I've looked at hwmonitor, hwinfo, and Gigabyte SIV and they all have the same reading. At load it's 1.8v as set in the BIOS.
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Are voltage spikes in OCCT anything to worry about?

Bios vcore is set to offset +0.150v for around 1.2vcore and LLC is set to high, VRIN/Input voltage at stock 1.800v

Is it just the voltage, or cpu clock spikes as well?
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Just the voltage, CPU clock and usage doesn't move.
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Software reading... Guys c'mon.
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Software reading... Guys c'mon.

Beat me to it..lol..

@GameBoy
I was getting similar but mine was clock drop, what happens if you run OCCT again?
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Software reading... Guys c'mon.

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Beat me to it..lol..

@GameBoy
I was getting similar but mine was clock drop, what happens if you run OCCT again?

Yeah, I understand software readings can be off, but I'm experiencing weird problems to go with it, too. After doing the 1 hour run with OCCT at 1.2v (in CPU-Z and BIOS), I started the test again and my vcore jumped up to 1.25v, and OCCT hardlocked my system within a few seconds. Restarted the pc, ran OCCT again and no issues? (vcore reporting correctly again)
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They can be off, but very likely a polling conflict with more than one OS-based program pinging the same sensors.
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That's the sort of voltage I'd expect to see at medium LLC.

Not sure why the other settings wouldn't show different load voltages unless MSI's load line calibration options are broken (all the same thing). You may simply not be pulling enough current to make the differences readily apparent.

If possible, measure vinput directly with a multimeter to confirm the idle and load voltages you are reading in software.
Neither of those boards have an OC socket.

I was asking if the ASRock was the USB 3.1 revision because ASRock added an OC socket to those boards. Without one you'll be limited to 3.5-3.7GHz uncore and ultra high memory OCs may not be achiveable. This really isn't a big deal unless you are building the system primarily for benching. Personally, I'm not even using the feature on my X99 SOC Champion as I have reason to believe it contributed to the failure of my first 5820k sample.

A potentially bigger issue is that some of ASRocks boards have a firmware bug that can seriously impact lightly threaded performance in some situations. I'm not sure if the X99X Killer is affected, but even if it is it can be worked around by flashing older firmware.

Anyway, I'd recommend keeping what you've got and sending back the MSI/5930K you ordered for a refund. The ASRock is likely the better board, and if you really need USB 3.1 at some point, you can buy a PCI-E card for it.

Thanks so much Blame. That's exactly what I'm going to do... i'll report this afternoon should have everything done quickly. Do you recommend the intel insurance/warranty for OC'ing? (can't remember exact name but it's like 35 bucks.)

And here's the label on my 5960


Edited by st0necold - 10/2/15 at 10:19am
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