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Originally Posted by schoolofmonkey View Post

Nope that's fine, I don't mind learning the ropes.
First time I've actually delved this deep into overclocking, I generally went for the "safe" overclocks on my 3570k and 4790k, I'm trying to push the x99 harder..lol.

Now with these settings everything is stable, the moment I move the cache past stock (3.3Ghz) AIDA64 will pickup a hardware fault. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I think your still in a reasonably safe zone with that oc. At least i hope you are since it looks pretty similar to my oc smile.gif
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post #13542 of 22287
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I think your still in a reasonably safe zone with that oc. At least i hope you are since it looks pretty similar to my oc smile.gif

Nope, locked up in Cinebench, but I don't have the best motherboard for overclocking, I've never been able to get over 4.3Ghz stable no matter what voltage.
I thought I was stable in the screen shot as AIDA64 was fine, but not Cinebench.. Go figure..lol..

In all honesty I think its my ram, it's not very stable at 2666Mhz when you overclock, it also uses a 100Mhz BCLK..
post #13543 of 22287
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Originally Posted by schoolofmonkey View Post

Nope, locked up in Cinebench, but I don't have the best motherboard for overclocking, I've never been able to get over 4.3Ghz stable no matter what voltage.
I thought I was stable in the screen shot as AIDA64 was fine, but not Cinebench.. Go figure..lol..

In all honesty I think its my ram, it's not very stable at 2666Mhz when you overclock, it also uses a 100Mhz BCLK..

Your motherboard is fine for overclocking, it will do just as well as any other x99 mobo when oc'ing on air/water. Just cant oc the cache frequency.

If you're noticing more vcore is not helping then i would suggest upping the vccin and see if that helps.
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Your motherboard is fine for overclocking, it will do just as well as any other x99 mobo when oc'ing on air/water. Just cant oc the cache frequency.

If you're noticing more vcore is not helping then i would suggest upping the vccin and see if that helps.

Thanks for that.
I'm currently running a 1.900v vccin, set my vdroop to 100% (MSI are weird) so during stress testing it's 1.920v.
I'll try 1.25v for 4.4Ghz and see how it goes, how much higher would you take the vccin safely?
post #13545 of 22287
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

Your motherboard is fine for overclocking, it will do just as well as any other x99 mobo when oc'ing on air/water. Just cant oc the cache frequency.

If you're noticing more vcore is not helping then i would suggest upping the vccin and see if that helps.

+1 the same happen to me @4.4ghz just start increasing the voltage from 1.22v to 1.29v nothing help me.. only VCCIN to 1.93v stabilize my 4.4ghz @1.256v
    
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Yeah, I have no interest in overclocking the cache, though. Does it have any impact on core speed overclocks or required vcore?

I tried benching Firestrike the other day with no cache overclock and core at 4.7 to 5GHz. With no cache OC Firestrike would fail at all these frequencies. With cache at 4.2 to 4.6 passed with flying colours at all frequencies.... wink.gif better scores 4.4 to 4.6


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, take it apart and find out wink.gif

P.S did you look at the date on that paper lol.

Heh...err...not going to put my money where my mouth is that way redface.gif

Yeah, I know it's old but I thought that was still valid...the direction they were going from lead free...
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Thanks for that.
I'm currently running a 1.900v vccin, set my vdroop to 100% (MSI are weird) so during stress testing it's 1.920v.
I'll try 1.25v for 4.4Ghz and see how it goes, how much higher would you take the vccin safely?

You never want your VCCIN on load being higher than your BIOS VCCIN. I think with MSI the LLC % is how much Vdroop it attempts to prevent, so a lower percentage should reduce the LLC. You want around a 0.04V difference between idle and load VCCIN. IIRC the stock Vdroop for idle-load is 0.07V on these chips.
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You never want your VCCIN on load being higher than your BIOS VCCIN. I think with MSI the LLC % is how much Vdroop it attempts to prevent, so a lower percentage should reduce the LLC. You want around a 0.04V difference between idle and load VCCIN. IIRC the stock Vdroop for idle-load is 0.07V on these chips.

And there in lies the problem.
At 100% vdroop it will go over BIOS set vccin during stress testing, at 95% if my vccin is set to 1.900v it will drop to 1.888v, which is 0.012v under BIOS set, if I set it to 1.920v in BIOS you'll get 1.904v while stress testing.
The 75% setting does EXACTLY the same ad 95%, there is no noticeable difference in monitoring software, and I can't check voltages manually (no way on this board).

Hence why I developed the opinion this isn't the best overclocking board
Man, try explaining all this to MSI support, that was so painful and they still didn't understand there could be a BIOS issue with the board. rolleyes.gif
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And there in lies the problem.
At 100% vdroop it will go over BIOS set vccin during stress testing, at 95% if my vccin is set to 1.900v it will drop to 1.888v, which is 0.012v under BIOS set, if I set it to 1.920v in BIOS you'll get 1.904v while stress testing.
The 75% setting does EXACTLY the same ad 95%, there is no noticeable difference in monitoring software, and I can't check voltages manually (no way on this board).

Hence why I developed the opinion this isn't the best overclocking board
Man, try explaining all this to MSI support, that was so painful and they still didn't understand there could be a BIOS issue with the board. rolleyes.gif

what droop does 50% produce under load?
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what droop does 50% produce under load?

I'm using 50% myself. Set Bios to 1.93v and under full load it drops to 1.904. Under light load it hovers around 1.920v.
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