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Originally Posted by Kimir View Post

Bruh, it's Doug, it does XOC...
He said no issues, not stable with 3 hours of GSAT or 1000% HCI or 12h Aida. XD

Think you're missing the point, no one is talking about stability
post #13742 of 22170
If someone wants to run 1.8 vdimm so be it. If your cpu or ram dies send it back and get another.
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post #13743 of 22170
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Think you're missing the point
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

If someone wants to run 1.8 vdimm so be it. If your cpu or ram dies send it back and get another.

If they ran 1.8V to research the effects of high Vdimm on X99 plaforms, then they would be doing the community a massive favour. The research gained from such a task would be useful. As it is - boasting about 1.8V "check out my mad performance gains" is not going to help anybody. DDR4 is still being improved, so the need for such excessive voltage to try and reach settings which will be standard in high end enthusiast RAM kits in a year is fruitless if it destroys the rig. Such is the balance between performance and longevity, except when you go so far out of realistic bounds it's just going to offer no tangible benefit to anyone at all.
post #13745 of 22170
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Originally Posted by Desolutional View Post

If they ran 1.8V to research the effects of high Vdimm on X99 plaforms, then they would be doing the community a massive favour. The research gained from such a task would be useful. As it is - boasting about 1.8V "check out my mad performance gains" is not going to help anybody. Sure, I can drive my car on redline 24/7 to boast about it, but it's not going to help anyone, and it's just going to ruin my own life. DDR4 is still being improved, so the need for such excessive voltage to try and reach settings which will be standard in high end enthusiast RAM kits in a year is fruitless if it destroys the rig.

Doug is a fairly seasoned overclocker and HWBOT member, he's not stupid. It is horses for courses and nothing more. 1.8v through DDR4 is a common occurrence in different circles and thus people get comfortable at different levels. Nobody is any the wiser, I don't know anyone who has comfortably ran that much voltage for an extended period of time. The problem lies with making statements that it is safe to do so, and that is where the problem ends. There is simply no need to run that much voltage on a day to day system regardless.

Besides that, many users put in excess of 2v through their systems - and although the community is filled with like minded enthusiasts, with these things it's easy to be at cross purposes.
Edited by Silent Scone - 10/22/15 at 11:18am
post #13746 of 22170
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Originally Posted by michael-ocn View Post

Ok, thnx... makes me think I should try some memory overclocking then, to pick up any low hanging fruit... i'll see if my 2400 kit runs at 2666 w/o changing anything besides the multiplier. I wouldn't mind a free upgrade smile.gif

Oh well, no soup for me, or maybe half a bowl of soup depending on how u look at it. I changed the target freq from 2400 to 2600 without changing anything else, POST'd back into the bios then booted a memtest+ dvd. Everything was going great, passing test after test... but then I noticed it was testing only 8G... the other 8G was missing in action eh-smiley.gif
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post #13747 of 22170
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Oh well, no soup for me, or maybe half a bowl of soup depending on how u look at it. I changed the target freq from 2400 to 2600 without changing anything else, POST'd back into the bios then booted a memtest+ dvd. Everything was going great, passing test after test... but then I noticed it was testing only 8G... the other 8G was missing in action eh-smiley.gif

That could be a Vdimm issue or a VCCSA. I had to bump my VCCSA up by a tiny 0.03V for my rig to recognise the rest of my RAM after reducing timings.

---

On the topic of DDR4, do we still have to disable Intel Turboboost and use a BCLK strap for high frequencies such as 3200MHz? IIRC there were certain sweet spots where 100 BCLK played nicely such as 2400MHz, 2666MHz, 3200MHz?
post #13748 of 22170
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Doug is a fairly seasoned overclocker and HWBOT member, he's not stupid. It is horses for courses and nothing more. 1.8v through DDR4 is a common occurrence in different circles and thus people get comfortable at different levels. Nobody is any the wiser, I don't know anyone who has comfortably ran that much voltage for an extended period of time. The problem lies with making statements that it is safe to do so, and that is where the problem ends. There is simply no need to run that much voltage on a day to day system regardless.

Besides that, many users put in excess of 2v through their systems - and although the community is filled with like minded enthusiasts, with these things it's easy to be at cross purposes.
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Doug is a fairly seasoned overclocker and HWBOT member, he's not stupid. It is horses for courses and nothing more. 1.8v through DDR4 is a common occurrence in different circles and thus people get comfortable at different levels. Nobody is any the wiser, I don't know anyone who has comfortably ran that much voltage for an extended period of time. The problem lies with making statements that it is safe to do so, and that is where the problem ends. There is simply no need to run that much voltage on a day to day system regardless.

Besides that, many users put in excess of 2v through their systems - and although the community is filled with like minded enthusiasts, with these things it's easy to be at cross purposes.

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Where'd you get the diplomacy pills from ?

Another +1 for the Scone!

It's not the amount of Voltage really that upsets the idea. But the bold statement saying things will be perfectly safe at the mentioned level. (some noobies might be looking at the post and follows the value with inadequate cooling and/or experience, destroys their rig and cry for lost $$$$ ---- we all know we should avoid those info.)

There's a crowd for every act.
post #13750 of 22170
You guys think a ( noobie ) is going to come on and just try 1.8vdimm ? I mean when i was new to computers i did not want to touch any voltage unless i knew what i was changing.

ask your self this. When you first got into overclocking did you just go in raising voltage you knew noting about or did you research it first?

come on, a little common sense and research goes along way. wink.gif

also like to mention overclocking and safe dont really go together tongue.gif2cents.gif
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