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Yeah watchdog bsod. that 4.7Ghz is not that stable.
Yup, 1.36v smthg measured for 4.5Ghz on cache, I don't use that daily tho, I backed down to 4.2Ghz 1.19v from my usual 4.4Ghz since it needs more volt that it used to now. redface.gif

It's broken-in... temps probably don;t change much even at the new, higher voltages I bet. thumb.gif
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Play with VCCIN if you're getting watch dog. :)changing cache or cpu volt for me when borderline stable always required some play time on VCCIN. Sometimes higher isn't always better.
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Setting everything except RAM back to stock is a great way to ensure that your RAM overclocking is going to plan. Rarely does a stable core OC affect RAM stability, but in the odd case it does, sticking to stock should help iron out the issues. Anything up to 2800MHz should be doable with XMP, higher than that could depend on the strength of your IMC (Intel uses 2133MHz JEDEC spec unfortunately for us). I run 2400MHz DDR4 sticks which I could easily drop the timings on, but couldn't run 2666MHz 100% Linux stable for the life of me. I was running 8 4GB, Hynix IIRC, sticks. At the end of the day, anything above 2400MHz yields a lower benefit than 2133MHz to 2400MHz, weirdly. Not sure why there's such a bump between 2133MHz and 2400MHz, but there just is. RAM manufacturers love to bin their kits excessively, as it gives them a selling point for the higher spec'd kits. Sure, you may get lucky and get a kit with a nice set of ICs, but usually you can't push reasonable OCs without excessive tuning of secondary and tertiary timings. Pretty much the same thing with the chips themselves, although J batch seemed to have a nicer OCing range on average. Got my eyes set on the Trident Z series which seem to be listed at a decent price.

I'm not having much luck increasing the clock speed, but it's happy to run with tighter timings. It's running the stressapptest at 2400Mhz 14-14-14-35-1T (along with 4.4core/3.3cache on the cpu). That's with the mem related voltages set to "auto" in the bios.
vccsa - 0.984
vdimm(a/b) - 1.222
vdimm(c/d) - 1.209

Channels a/b are always slightly higher than c/d. Even if I enter a manual settings for dram voltage and eventual dram voltage. Since i was able to boot 2 of the 4 dimms at 2600, I thought it must be close to being able to lock them all in. I plugged in 1.25 as a manual setting for dram voltage. Nope. I was able to boot 3 of the 4 dimms like that. I put the cpu at stock and dialed in some settings that i though would at least get me into the bios. Nope, had to use the memOK button to recover from that. Thought I'd bump vccsa, so put the ram back at stock and turned the system agent offset setting from auto to a manual 0.03. I was thinking that would get added to the .984 value. It booted up and ran with a much lower vccsa (0,88?), apparently the default offset is somewhat more then 0.03. Anyway at stock clocks, the much lower vccsa was all that was needed.

That 2400 at much lower voltages all around worked compared to what I was trying for 2600 and 2666 gave me some pause. Is more voltage what it wants or something else?

Maybe I'll try again later, but for now, I'm just going to tighten the timings a bit and call it a day. Maybe i can get it down to cl11 or 12.
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That 2400 at much lower voltages all around worked compared to what I was trying for 2600 and 2666 gave me some pause. Is more voltage what it wants or something else?

Maybe I'll try again later, but for now, I'm just going to tighten the timings a bit and call it a day. Maybe i can get it down to cl11 or 12.

With my 2666mhz G-Skill kit, I was having all sorts of stability issues, most of the time I thought it was my CPU overclock.

When jp mentioned about upping the dimm voltages to 1.4v, I tried 1.3v first (they usually run at A/B 1.216, C/D at 1.200v), since then all my hard locks are gone, can pass stressapptest with back to back 1 hours run, lowered my vccsa to 1.020v (probably could go lower.), the XMP/Auto VCCSA setting when running the ram at 2666mhz was 1.2v (0.36v offset).

Just been through all the same with my 2666mhz kit.
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With my 2666mhz G-Skill kit, I was having all sorts of stability issues, most of the time I thought it was my CPU overclock.

When jp mentioned about upping the dimm voltages to 1.4v, I tried 1.3v first (they usually run at A/B 1.216, C/D at 1.200v), since then all my hard locks are gone, can pass stressapptest with back to back 1 hours run, lowered my vccsa to 1.020v (probably could go lower.), the XMP/Auto VCCSA setting when running the ram at 2666mhz was 1.2v (0.36v offset).

Just been through all the same with my 2666mhz kit.

Adding some voltage did get it to boot up and run at 2666 with the cl16 and 2t timings. I definitely don't like where auto put the vccsa, 1.136. I also don't like that its slower than my 2400 cl14 1t settings according to aida and cinebench.






I think I'm punting on the higher mem clocks, not worth it for me. I'll try to tighten my 2400 timings a little more and that's that.
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Adding some voltage did get it to boot up and run at 2666 with the cl16 and 2t timings. I definitely don't like where auto put the vccsa, 1.136. I also don't like that its slower than my 2400 cl14 1t settings according to aida and cinebench. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


I think I'm punting on the higher mem clocks, not worth it for me. I'll try to tighten my 2400 timings a little more and that's that.

These are my memory benchmarks:


Currently just running the stock memory timings: 15-15-15-35 2T@1.30v
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These are my memory benchmarks: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Currently just running the stock memory timings: 15-15-15-35 2T@1.30v

Uncanny that our aida scores are so similar given the 2400 vs 2666! Are you running cpu/cache 4.3/3.4? I'm running 4.4/3.3. I'll put them next to each other.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Uncanny that our aida scores are so similar given the 2400 vs 2666! Are you running cpu/cache 4.3/3.4? I'm running 4.4/3.3.

I'm running 4.3Ghz@1.180v offset of +0.010 (1.198v while stressing), cache is 3.3Ghz@1.11v, VCCSA@1.020v.

I don't bother pushing my cache any further due to not having a OC socketed motherboard.
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I'm running 4.3Ghz@1.180v offset of +0.010 (1.198v while stressing), cache is 3.3Ghz@1.11v, VCCSA@1.020v.

I don't bother pushing my cache any further due to not having a OC socketed motherboard.

I don't bother pushing the cache past 3.3 because 3.4 is where the default cache voltage settings stop working and its unstable. I like overclocking along the path of least resistance smile.gif
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I don't bother pushing the cache past 3.3 because 3.4 is where the default cache voltage settings stop working and its unstable. I like overclocking along the path of least resistance smile.gif

What voltages are you using for 4.4Ghz?
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