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The XMP high VSA thing seems to be something they all do. Running 2666 on z79 with GS tridents tried to use 1.25V VSA. Silly. I haven't experienced needing to change VSA with increasing cpu clock (at the same ram settings)/

Don't need to change the VSA once it's dialed in, only had to increase the ram voltage more to 1.35v when I went over a 4.3Ghz overclock.
I'm currently 20 minutes into stressing a 4.5Ghz overclock, had to use 1.27v, so far so good, didn't need to increase the ram over 1.35v for this.
Just surprised me how well the ram ran with some more voltage put through it.

I know it was only 15 minutes, but I'm moving on to a better stress test:
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Nice! and at stock cache too... good throughput.
run it for a while, if you only went to bios, it's a low(er) current event. 4.5@1.2V is still >90% of samples.
lol - at 16, i never would have dug up the first 1K. blinksmiley.gif
The XMP high VSA thing seems to be something they all do. Running 2666 on z79 with GS tridents tried to use 1.25V VSA. Silly. I haven't experienced needing to change VSA with increasing cpu clock (at the same ram settings)/

Well i`ve worked for a folder named ``war``. He got a big server park producing around 8 mill PPD a day on a bad day. tongue.gif He asked me if i wanted to work for him and i did twice, he gave me the ax1500I and ssd. and gave me the money for mobo, ram, cpu etc. that`s why. tongue.gif So now you all know why i`m a noob and ask alot of questions. ^^
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Nice! and at stock cache too... good throughput.

Cache is running at 3.625GHz with 1.11v. Stock is 3/3.3GHz and 1.05v.

Still, I've been trying to minimize the cache voltage and this is right about the cut off before voltage scaling gets nuts. I can do 3.4GHz with 1.05v, 3.5GHz with 1.075v, 3.6GHz with 1.09v 3.625Ghz with 1.105v...but 3.7GHz without the OC socket enabled takes 1.2v+.
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The XMP high VSA thing seems to be something they all do. Running 2666 on x79/3930K with GS tridents tried to use 1.25V VSA.

Used to be worse. Had a set of Corsair DDR3 try to tell my Gulftown to use 1.65 QPI/VTT (stock was 1.1v and I normally ran 1.275v for my 24/7 OC), which probably would have kill the thing in a few days of benching.
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Just surprised me how well the ram ran with some more voltage put through it.

Some ICs really like the voltage. I haven't found such to be the case with my Micron DDR4, but I know Hynix and particularly Samsung have a tendency to scale well with extra juice.
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Some ICs really like the voltage. I haven't found such to be the case with my Micron DDR4, but I know Hynix and particularly Samsung have a tendency to scale well with extra juice.

Was a little hesitant to do it at first, but I noticed a big difference even at stock timings.
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For those who remember my first 5960X got fried after only a few weeks of use when I bought and installed an ASUS Sabertooth X99.

After weeks of RMA service and phone calls, emails etc, I got a new 5960X and the X99 GODLIKE Gaming board, I was just happy with it running cool and quiet, so my current settings are these.

LLC = Balanced (Mid setting)
Multi = 40
Cache = 30
Vcore = 1,000v (Using adaptive voltage, goes up to 1,035v in Windows during stress testing).
Ring = 0,850v (Stock setting).
VRIN = 1,800v.

The RAM is running at it's XMP settings, i.e stock, 2400 MHz with stock timings and at stock voltage.

The CPU cooler I'm using is a Noctua NH-U12S, and the maximum temps during load are 68-70c.

I would like your opinion however it is worth the time and effort to improve on this for daily use, I play some games and do some rendering, but nothing noteworthy, the computer is ROCK stable right now. Would increasing Cache or RAM speed make a worthwhile difference or is it just for epeen?

I'm happy with the CPU multi and Vcore and I'l leave it there.

TL;DR: Should I OC the RAM and Cache for performance? tongue.gif


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My current 24/7 settings (stable) with my Ballistix Sport 2400:

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Using the 1.25x BCLK ratio as 4.3GHz is just out of reach of my cooling and starts to require voltages I'm not comfortable with. 4.2GHz had plenty of headroom, so I settled on 4.25.

1.93v input (medium LLC), 1.2v core, 1.11v ring, +0.02 vccsa, 1.06 vccio, 1.35 vdimm (closer to 1.36v real). No VLs set as the OC socket functionality is still disabled. 3.625GHz uncore is about as far as I can go without needing huge voltage increases without the OC socket.

Been running these clocks and voltages for almost a month now; haven't seen a single failed boot/training case, and everything is as unconditionally stable as I can make it (i.e. it will run Prime95 28.7, LINPACK, stressapp, transcode, game, stream, for as long as I care to...with at least stock stability). No signs of post break-in (which was done about two months ago) degradation, yet.

Ok, those numbers make we want try again to get some more out of my micron 2400 kit, thnx for the encouraging info. I'm happy with the free upgrade I got out of my cpu. I want to be happy about my memory too, but I know I won't be unless I at least try a bit more to run them at faster than stock clocks.

Earlier, when I bumped them up to 2666 with a 100 bclk, they underperformed for reasons that I don't understand. That had heavily dissuaded me.
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I'm currently 20 minutes into stressing a 4.5Ghz overclock,

nice, getting cranked up smile.gif
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TL;DR: Should I OC the RAM and Cache for performance? tongue.gif
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Isn't that a question only you can answer?
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TL;DR: Should I OC the RAM and Cache for performance? tongue.gif

No. (Coming from an avid gamer and adobe user). If your rig is stable for the next week, I guess you could mess about with cache, but don't bother with RAM. Those Ballistix kits can be quite tricky (though I got my 16GB kit to 2666MHz with 15-15-15-34 1T with 1.4V).

A far more beneficial upgrade would be GPUs (yeah boy, Crossfire). Chuck a few SSDs in too if you feel like it. Have fun, thumb.gif

Either way, I'm seriously impressed that Noctua can handle that 8 core beast at 4.0GHz. Whatever you do though, DON'T run FPU, AVX 2.0 based tests as they will easily shift your max temps to the 80s. If you want to switch to liquid, the EK Predator 360 is a lovely choice, albeit not worth it if you already own a H100i GT, or better. "Can it pass Prime95" isn't valid for real world usage, more like "can it pass 12 hours of h.264 encoding" is a better idea.
Edited by Desolutional - 10/25/15 at 12:35pm
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How is 2667mhz 14-14-14-36-1T 1.350V?

This is just something i`ve put from stock XMP, 1t instead of the usual 2t. Should i really bother with more?

Or else my rig seems fine at 4.5Ghz with new bios update atleast.

Been using 4.5Ghz 1.200V, Cache 4.0Ghz 1.125V and vccin at 1.904V-ish (LLC 7). This is the info i got from Aida64. If this is truly stable as it used to be i`m still very glad and i suspect the chip might is fine since i did _not_ boot into windows at 1.910V. Only posted. ^!^

1808 is what i got on Cinebench, seems completely normal score for my setup?
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Tried to see how my 5960x oc's... tried ASRock's pre-optimized 4.0ghz setting (OC Tuner)... ran OCCT for a few minutes, but one core got to 70 something-- so I shut the test down and restarted this time just changing the core multi to 40+Disable hyperthreading.. booted, OCCT crashed after a minute.

I need more voltage, but i'm not sure with ASRock's BIOS. The "Fixed" option is set at 1.9 and that seems too much to even "try" but I know there a lot of variables with this stuff so does anyone have any input?

Edited to add: I also am not sure about my ram's XMP. i'm running Dominator plat. and they are 3000hz I think. I haven't altered any ram settings in bios.
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Those Ballistix kits can be quite tricky (though I got my 16GB kit to 2666MHz with 15-15-15-34 1T with 1.4V).

One of my sticks seems not like the others, the 4G module in slot B1 sucks, I think that's an appropriate technical description of the problem.

I worked vdimm and vccsa up to the top end of my comfort zone, 1.3v and 1.2'ish. Alternatively increasing one or the other across restarts. Also attempting 2600 vs 2666 mhz for some voltage combos. Just trying to POST. The stick in slot B1 wasn't recognized in any attempt. The sticks in A1 and D1 were recognized in every attempt. The stick in C1 sometimes made it and sometimes not (a higher voltage sometimes caused it to go missing again).

I think I got a lemon for one of my sticks frown.gif

Come to think of it, maybe it's the slot and not the stick? Any bets on whether reseating slot B1 or swapping which stick is in which slot would help?
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