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I heard that I must not test it with synthetic AVX2 tests. Even Xeons reduce the frequency from 2.8Ghz to 1.9Ghz when they use heavy AVX2 tasks.

So, I'm tried HandBrake video converter that supports AVX2 (but I guess not as much as prime or linx). 30 min of converting and BSOD. Max temp was 69.

I tried 4.6Ghz and 1.2v (AIDA64 shows 1.208v) right now. 15min in AIDA65 and PC restart. Do I need to try it with 1.21v? 0.01v can make difference?

Right now I trying 4.5Ghz/1.18v (1.192 in AIDA64) with HandBrake. 40 min - OK.
AIDA64 show 1.184v when I stress-test CPU (even with other programs) and not 1.175v. I don't know why.
Why and how much?

First thing you need to do so we can help you better is add your system components to your signature. how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig

On most chips once you start going over 1.2vcore you will probably need more vccin than what the board is giving by default.

I think some boards set it to 1.9vccin with a low LLC so under load it's probably around 1.8v.

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So, I'm tried HandBrake video converter that supports AVX2 (but I guess not as much as prime or linx).

Yeah, surely running HandBrake is OK. Or it better be, I'd think that'd be along the lines of a program that Haswell-E could really be useful in. I know I really enjoy plowing through some BluRay rips:thumb: I only get 100% CPU utilization on all cores every now and then, most of the time it's 98% or so, max temps ~70° C or so.
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hello guys!

i was on 4.2ghz with 1.150v for a while now, i know that the bigger clock more volts are needed but i am nobish with all of these voltage adjustments and to lazy to do trial and error as for 4.2 all i needed to change is vcore, now for a 4.5ghz i tried 1.3v and it was not stable probably couse i need to adjust other voltages. I am on 4.3ghz now with 1.170v (need to test it more to see if it is 100% stable and than lower a vcore a bit if i can tongue.gif)

so 4.3ghz with 1.170v( or a little bit less vcore) is ok? compared with 4.5Ghz and changing every other voltage setting i bios?
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so 4.3ghz with 1.170v( or a little bit less vcore) is ok? compared with 4.5Ghz and changing every other voltage setting i bios?

Yes. To be perfectly honest, if you don't have a triple SLI setup and just plan on gaming, even running it at stock is good enough. Anything higher than 4.0GHz is nice. There's a voltage wall around 4.5 to 4.6GHz, which needs a massive increase in voltage to scale. Passing the voltage wall isn't worth it for normal users. thumb.gif

Just make sure it's stable by running h264 stress test for 8 hours. After that, just enjoy. No need to run Prime95 for 1000 hours, just make sure it can pass h264 for 8 hours. Prime95 is a highly specific program used to do boring things like find mersene primes. Unless you plan on using the rig 24/7 for number crunching or F@H, don't bother with it. If you ever need the extra few 0.1GHz, you'll definitely know.
Edited by Desolutional - 10/30/15 at 5:26pm
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but most games are still single threaded so even if it is 6-cored HT processor it still benefits with higher clocks, dx12 will solve that as it will spread usage for all cores so than 4ghz clocks will be plenty for gaming (even stock clocks tongue.gif )
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Load line compensation does not act on VCORE on x99. doh.gif
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First thing you need to do so we can help you better is add your system components to your signature. how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig

On most chips once you start going over 1.2vcore you will probably need more vccin. some boards set it to 1.9vccin with a low LLC so under load it's probably around 1.8v.

Need your pc specs
Done. Added my specs smile.gif

My VCCIN is: 1.9v.
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Done. Added my specs smile.gif

My VCCIN is: 1.9v.

There are some guy's in this thread that have MSI boards i think they can shed some light on the MSI LLC options for VCCIN.

What is your LLC set to? Does the VCCIN drop under load?

If so you can try a higher LLC so it dosent drop as much under load.
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I heard that I must not test it with synthetic AVX2 tests. Even Xeons reduce the frequency from 2.8Ghz to 1.9Ghz when they use heavy AVX2 tasks.

So, I'm tried HandBrake video converter that supports AVX2 (but I guess not as much as prime or linx). 30 min of converting and BSOD. Max temp was 69.

I tried 4.6Ghz and 1.2v (AIDA64 shows 1.208v) right now. 15min in AIDA65 and PC restart. Do I need to try it with 1.21v? 0.01v can make difference?

Right now I trying 4.5Ghz/1.18v (1.192 in AIDA64) with HandBrake. 40 min - OK.
AIDA64 show 1.184v when I stress-test CPU (even with other programs) and not 1.175v. I don't know why.
Why and how much?

If I had that chip, I'd probably stabilize at 4.5 instead of pushing it. After you conduct more tests, you'll likely find you need a little more then 1.184 to get it fully stable at 4.5 (or if your lucky maybe not). Then once it was stable, if volts and temps are low enough, I'd think about maybe going for 4.6.

Here's a list of some stress testing tools to use...
aida (but not fpu all by itself), x265 benchmark, occt (but not the avx linpack test), the linux stressapptest, realbench

Here's a couple to avoid...
ibt, prime95 (unless you disable avx in its local.txt file or use an older pre-avx version 26.6),
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@supersf @lilchronic

On MSI boards the LLC is called "CPU Vdroop Offset Control", it's under the DigitALL Power Menu.
Now the general consensus here to to have a good 50mv vdroop, it may work for the Asus boards, not for MSI people, I've found the most reliable setting is 95%.
75% droops far too much and has cause instabilities in my system, but it is worth a try first, due to not having a OC socket sometime you need to set the voltages a little higher than what the Asus boards need.
The guys here know I've asked a million and 10 questions (@Jpmboy is keeping count..lol), but use the answers as a bases to start your overclock.
Oh and don't forget MSI does things "unconventionally", it was a huge learning curve for me coming from using Asus ROG boards for years.


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