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A little on the high side for mt perferences... but should be totally fine. it really takes regular use and normal on/off power cycles (not done as a test) to really get at VSA. so... when you set offset to 0.20V... any problems?

Setting the VCCSA to 1.050v ends up giving you a offset of 0.20v.
It's what I was running before, I never encountered any actual issues running at 1.050v (other than the noticeable x265 thing), I was able to pass all the stress test without the machine throwing memory errors, plus cold and warm boots never showed a 55 qcode or Windows hang on boot.
I've been running at the 1.100v all day and (you're going to think I'm nuts) noticed a genuine difference, machine didn't feel so delayed when opening apps (Corel Paint shop, Premiere etc) and doing everyday stuff compared to when I was running 1.050v, which I did for 2 days.
1.100v is giving the offset of 0.26v, the XMP/Memory try it sets it to a +0.36v offset, I should probably try 1.080v first before going 1.100v...lol.
Generally what is set in BIOS is what the IMC gets, or could there be some voltage droop you don't see in the monitoring software?
Edited by schoolofmonkey - 11/4/15 at 6:19am
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Guys I just got aida64... ran a cache/memory benchmark. is this good for my rams? They are corsair dominator 3000 (4x4) c15-3k

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Guys I just got aida64... ran a cache/memory benchmark. is this good for my rams? They are corsair dominator 3000 (4x4) c15-3k


It's fine given you're not overclocking cache, this will improve throughput
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erm... what post?

This one:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I checked out Kimir's screenshot because I wanted to make sure of something. In his mainboard tab of CPU - Z, is link width and max supported equate to each other at x16. I am running the MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition motherboard with a 5820k and an EVGA GTX 970 FTW.EDITION.

My max supports reads 16 but the link width reads 8. Same with GPU-Z, even after running the render test, GPU-Z shows PCIE 3.0X16@3.0X8.

I have contacted MSI and EVGA about this and, not to sound like a jerk, got the "head up ass" run around from both companies. Obviously, and I wouldn't even bring this up as an issue if I was this "out there", my card is in the top slot for PCI-E, in which the manual even states this is the x16 slot, along with the 3rd slot which I also tried since I have a single card, to the same outcome.

I am running nothing else in PCI-E. Everything in BIOS is set to max peformance, all power saving is disabled, even my C-States, and the only control I have of the PCI-E slots is to turn groups from Auto, Gen1, Gen2, or Gen3. I have tried every possible combination out of desperation but again to no avail. Obviously slot 1 is again set to Gen 3.

I know the differences between x8 and x16 are negligible, however this is a major thorn in my side. The only.thing I can think of is that somehow the on board USB 3.0 or 3.1 is utilizing Gen 3 PCI-E, but there is nothing in BIOS that points me to this, nor lets.me.change anything if this is the case.

For the record, even BIOS is detecting x8 on a x16 lane. Despite the card being brand new in box and purchased a month ago for this rig specifically, I took it out and cleaned both sides of the contacts with rubbing alcohol and made sure this card was seated properly. No change.

I have tried researching this problem but most people end up having the card in the wrong slot or their BIOS isn't up to date, I'm not one of those guys.

There is something I am overlooking and any help shed on this would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks.
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erm... what post?

This one:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I checked out Kimir's screenshot because I wanted to make sure of something. In his mainboard tab of CPU - Z, is link width and max supported equate to each other at x16. I am running the MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition motherboard with a 5820k and an EVGA GTX 970 FTW.EDITION.

My max supports reads 16 but the link width reads 8. Same with GPU-Z, even after running the render test, GPU-Z shows PCIE 3.0X16@3.0X8.

I have contacted MSI and EVGA about this and, not to sound like a jerk, got the "head up ass" run around from both companies. Obviously, and I wouldn't even bring this up as an issue if I was this "out there", my card is in the top slot for PCI-E, in which the manual even states this is the x16 slot, along with the 3rd slot which I also tried since I have a single card, to the same outcome.

I am running nothing else in PCI-E. Everything in BIOS is set to max peformance, all power saving is disabled, even my C-States, and the only control I have of the PCI-E slots is to turn groups from Auto, Gen1, Gen2, or Gen3. I have tried every possible combination out of desperation but again to no avail. Obviously slot 1 is again set to Gen 3.

I know the differences between x8 and x16 are negligible, however this is a major thorn in my side. The only.thing I can think of is that somehow the on board USB 3.0 or 3.1 is utilizing Gen 3 PCI-E, but there is nothing in BIOS that points me to this, nor lets.me.change anything if this is the case.

For the record, even BIOS is detecting x8 on a x16 lane. Despite the card being brand new in box and purchased a month ago for this rig specifically, I took it out and cleaned both sides of the contacts with rubbing alcohol and made sure this card was seated properly. No change.

I have tried researching this problem but most people end up having the card in the wrong slot or their BIOS isn't up to date, I'm not one of those guys.

There is something I am overlooking and any help shed on this would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks.
The best place is at the motherboard owner thread. The next best place would be in the Intel motherboard section. This happened to me with my non-X99 computer but only happened with the second card which if the computer was disturbed, i.e. moving it or even with enough vibration (i.e. cat jump on the computer), the link for second card can go down to x8, usually at next boot. What I do is either keep re-lugging the card or gently pull-push the card witthout actually unplugging the card from the PCIe slot, until I get x16 back.
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This one:
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I checked out Kimir's screenshot because I wanted to make sure of something. In his mainboard tab of CPU - Z, is link width and max supported equate to each other at x16. I am running the MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition motherboard with a 5820k and an EVGA GTX 970 FTW.EDITION.

My max supports reads 16 but the link width reads 8. Same with GPU-Z, even after running the render test, GPU-Z shows PCIE 3.0X16@3.0X8.

I have contacted MSI and EVGA about this and, not to sound like a jerk, got the "head up ass" run around from both companies. Obviously, and I wouldn't even bring this up as an issue if I was this "out there", my card is in the top slot for PCI-E, in which the manual even states this is the x16 slot, along with the 3rd slot which I also tried since I have a single card, to the same outcome.

I am running nothing else in PCI-E. Everything in BIOS is set to max peformance, all power saving is disabled, even my C-States, and the only control I have of the PCI-E slots is to turn groups from Auto, Gen1, Gen2, or Gen3. I have tried every possible combination out of desperation but again to no avail. Obviously slot 1 is again set to Gen 3.

I know the differences between x8 and x16 are negligible, however this is a major thorn in my side. The only.thing I can think of is that somehow the on board USB 3.0 or 3.1 is utilizing Gen 3 PCI-E, but there is nothing in BIOS that points me to this, nor lets.me.change anything if this is the case.

For the record, even BIOS is detecting x8 on a x16 lane. Despite the card being brand new in box and purchased a month ago for this rig specifically, I took it out and cleaned both sides of the contacts with rubbing alcohol and made sure this card was seated properly. No change.

I have tried researching this problem but most people end up having the card in the wrong slot or their BIOS isn't up to date, I'm not one of those guys.

There is something I am overlooking and any help shed on this would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks.

have you checked the link state right after a full clear cmos? check the mobo manual and make sure ytou have the card in the correct slot? I don;t thik there's a single response that will trouble shoot the problem, If it persists after a clrcmos it's either the card otr the MB.
When you open gp[uZ run the little gpu stressor (the "?" right next to the link state box) and see if the link state changes to x16.
Edited by Jpmboy - 11/4/15 at 7:46am
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anyone interested in helping me out?

i just got done building my "beast" a few days ago. got everything set up. got my GPU overclocked and benched and now its time to overclock my 5820K.... so i def need help as i am fairly new to this. i tried for 4.5ghz, (124x36) with core voltage @ 1.3V highest temp i got there was around 67-68 max... seemed to run fine, but after 15 minutes on aida64 its crashed :/ anyway to mess with any of the numbers to make it stable? or get it close? ill be home tonight and can post pics as we go...

thanks in advance gents.


specs are;

Asus X99 pro,
5820K
EK Predator 360 AIO
Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 (overclocked to 1.5 @ 1.270V 8000 memory)
AX860i
2 Neutron XT SSD's
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>>> build log http://www.overclock.net/t/1575547/first-build-3k-budget
benchmarks for GPU on last page

thanks in advance gentlemen.
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have you checked the link state right after a full clear cmos? check the mobo manual and make sure ytou have the card in the correct slot? I don;t thik there's a single response that will trouble shoot the problem, If it persists after a clrcmos it's either the card otr the MB.
When you open gp[uZ run the little gpu stressor (the "?" right next to the link state box) and see if the link state changes to x16.

First, thanks Kizwan, some tricksI suppose I can try when I get home, but for a month old.board and card, this shoudnt be necessary.

JPM thank you as well. I listed in my post that i did run GPUZ render and even while running, both windowed.and full.screen, PCI-E 3.0x16@3.0x8. I also did state that the card is in the correct slot, thenfirst and third slot, though onboard they ar iddntified as 1 and 5, are the x16 lots. I have tried the card in both with the same results.

I did forget to.mention other troubleshooting steps i had tried which included clearing CMOS, more than once, and even trying my old 670 FTW in the same slot. Funny thing is, the 670, before the 970 was even purchased, worked fine, showed x16 on everything. After i installed the 970 and saw the problem, I swapped the 670 back in and now IT had the same problem.

Of course MSI is pointing the finger at EVGA and EVGA at MSI. Crazy.

On another note, I run everything through a Marantz AVR receiver. My 670, never had an issue. The 970, dont get a screen until Windows, i cannot see BIOS, even when i spam.delete and know its sitting in BIOS, nothing on screen through the AVR. When I bypass the AVR and go.straight to the tv, signal is fine. EVGA gave me the "some cards just work through an avr and some just dont..." and before i lost my cool on that person i just hung up on them.

The x8 is not an issue right now because i do plan on SLI soon, and with the 5820 i am only.going to be able to get two cards at x8 anyway, and by the time I have money put aside for the next system upgrade, I am sure it will be on a.completely different architecture anyway, and of course with new cards...

I just dont think that a company, or two in this case, should be finger pointing when there is an obvious issue with a brand new in box product on the customers end. Seriously, next build i am going back to gigabyte everything....should have listened to my gut this time around, you live, you learn....

Thanks for the replies guys, much obliged!
Edited by ThisMaySting - 11/4/15 at 9:10am
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Well I do a lot of video editing, which hasn't seem to phase the system, but I'd rather not loose my work needlessly. It seems I should run the test a bit longer. I just hate sitting there mindlessly waiting (I don't like walking away for too long since its ridding 80-86C)

Run your tests overnight. There is nothing that's likely to go wrong that you could save it from were you present.
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anyone interested in helping me out?

i just got done building my "beast" a few days ago. got everything set up. got my GPU overclocked and benched and now its time to overclock my 5820K.... so i def need help as i am fairly new to this. i tried for 4.5ghz, (124x36) with core voltage @ 1.3V highest temp i got there was around 67-68 max... seemed to run fine, but after 15 minutes on aida64 its crashed :/ anyway to mess with any of the numbers to make it stable? or get it close? ill be home tonight and can post pics as we go...

thanks in advance gents.


specs are;

Asus X99 pro,
5820K
EK Predator 360 AIO
Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 (overclocked to 1.5 @ 1.270V 8000 memory)
AX860i
2 Neutron XT SSD's
16 GB dom platinum ddr4 3000 ram
760T


>>> build log http://www.overclock.net/t/1575547/first-build-3k-budget
benchmarks for GPU on last page

thanks in advance gentlemen.

Besides giving the input voltage a bump to 1.9-1.95V, there's nothing else you really need to change for overclocking the cores. Run your memory at 2133MHz to rule that out first. Once you find your stable core frequency, then apply XMP and see if you're still stable. Then you can move on to overclocking the cache if desired.

The silicon lottery dictates how high your processor will clock, you might not be able to get 4.5GHz stable if you have a below average CPU.
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