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Besides giving the input voltage a bump to 1.9-1.95V, there's nothing else you really need to change for overclocking the cores. Run your memory at 2133MHz to rule that out first. Once you find your stable core frequency, then apply XMP and see if you're still stable. Then you can move on to overclocking the cache if desired.

The silicon lottery dictates how high your processor will clock, you might not be able to get 4.5GHz stable if you have a below average CPU.

ok that makes sense. so basically only mess with the same settings till i get it right.

is 36@125 good or shoud i go for 45@100

is my voltage safe at 1.3? or should i up it? whats the highest i can go and stay safe. ( i want this to last me) lol

and lastly. what IF it runs fine @2133 under stress but crashes @ 3000? whats my next step. because i paid good money to keep it @ 3000.


sorry for all the questions. still learning
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ok that makes sense. so basically only mess with the same settings till i get it right.

is 36@125 good or shoud i go for 45@100

is my voltage safe at 1.3? or should i up it? whats the highest i can go and stay safe. ( i want this to last me) lol

and lastly. what IF it runs fine @2133 under stress but crashes @ 3000? whats my next step. because i paid good money to keep it @ 3000.


sorry for all the questions. still learning

1.3v might be on the high side for a long term overclock or right at the edge. I think that's generally considered the cutoff for "safe" voltage (but really each cpu is different so there is not one fixed value and each persons risk profile is different). Personally, I'm more comfortable keeping it closer to 1.2v for everyday use. Your 360 cooler gives you good thermal headroom which helps to make the margin of safety better with higher clocks. For "safe" temps, generally you want to keep it under 75c while stressing.
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1.3v might be on the high side for a long term overclock or right at the edge. I think that's generally considered the cutoff for "safe" voltage (but really each cpu is different so there is not one fixed value and each persons risk profile is different). Personally, I'm more comfortable keeping it closer to 1.2v for everyday use. Your 360 cooler gives you good thermal headroom which helps to make the margin of safety better with higher clocks. For "safe" temps, generally you want to keep it under 75c while stressing.

ok cool. That makes sense. So, tonight go for;

1.) keep it close as possible to 1.2V
2.) up the speed slowly till reliable and stable
3.) no more than 75c
4.)turn off xpm during all of this
5.) after stable work on the XMP with voltage?


does that sound about right.
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guys - win7 always scores higher in this benchmark than W10 when you compare the OS'es on the same exact rig and clocks.

Yea, and to think I will feel compelled to repeat much of this stability testing once again when I jump to Windows 10, still taking notes on all the 'bugs' and trouble shooting postings here.
Still have not installed Linux either, I would prefer to isolate each to its own ssd..

Any particulate variable that stands out that frequently needs to be addressed under a windows 7 to 10 update.
A Linux install will probably happen before the windows 7. No immediate plans for a windows 10 at the moment.
just curious

Thanks
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First, thanks Kizwan, some tricksI suppose I can try when I get home, but for a month old.board and card, this shoudnt be necessary.

JPM thank you as well. I listed in my post that i did run GPUZ render and even while running, both windowed.and full.screen, PCI-E 3.0x16@3.0x8. I also did state that the card is in the correct slot, thenfirst and third slot, though onboard they ar iddntified as 1 and 5, are the x16 lots. I have tried the card in both with the same results.

I did forget to.mention other troubleshooting steps i had tried which included clearing CMOS, more than once, and even trying my old 670 FTW in the same slot. Funny thing is, the 670, before the 970 was even purchased, worked fine, showed x16 on everything. After i installed the 970 and saw the problem, I swapped the 670 back in and now IT had the same problem.

Of course MSI is pointing the finger at EVGA and EVGA at MSI. Crazy.

On another note, I run everything through a Marantz AVR receiver. My 670, never had an issue. The 970, dont get a screen until Windows, i cannot see BIOS, even when i spam.delete and know its sitting in BIOS, nothing on screen through the AVR. When I bypass the AVR and go.straight to the tv, signal is fine. EVGA gave me the "some cards just work through an avr and some just dont..." and before i lost my cool on that person i just hung up on them.

The x8 is not an issue right now because i do plan on SLI soon, and with the 5820 i am only.going to be able to get two cards at x8 anyway, and by the time I have money put aside for the next system upgrade, I am sure it will be on a.completely different architecture anyway, and of course with new cards...

I just dont think that a company, or two in this case, should be finger pointing when there is an obvious issue with a brand new in box product on the customers end. Seriously, next build i am going back to gigabyte everything....should have listened to my gut this time around, you live, you learn....

Thanks for the replies guys, much obliged!
Eh, sorry sometimes skimming on the phone.. I miss things. IMO - if the MB claims x16 with a single after all the things you tried (including clrcmos and bone stock verification of x8) still, only x8, sounds like a faulty MB -> RMA. No way to cross check with another MB i'm guessing.

regarding the AVR - I run a HTPC thru a (older) Denon 5308, using a 50' HDMI cable (bluejeans cable - only one certified to that length) and both NV and AMD cards always show a picture - bios is not a sure thing. the handshake can take too long. redface.gif

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anyone interested in helping me out?

i just got done building my "beast" a few days ago. got everything set up. got my GPU overclocked and benched and now its time to overclock my 5820K.... so i def need help as i am fairly new to this. i tried for 4.5ghz, (124x36) with core voltage @ 1.3V highest temp i got there was around 67-68 max... seemed to run fine, but after 15 minutes on aida64 its crashed :/ anyway to mess with any of the numbers to make it stable? or get it close? ill be home tonight and can post pics as we go...

thanks in advance gents.


specs are;

Asus X99 pro,
5820K
EK Predator 360 AIO
Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 (overclocked to 1.5 @ 1.270V 8000 memory)
AX860i
2 Neutron XT SSD's
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>>> build log http://www.overclock.net/t/1575547/first-build-3k-budget
benchmarks for GPU on last page

thanks in advance gentlemen.
Have a look at the guide...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1510328/asus-x99-motherboard-series-official-support-thread-north-american-users-only/0_20
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Latest version of p95 blend draws 240w from a 5820k @1.3v according to ai suite... and that's AFTER I dropped my clock from 4.5 to 4.375... temps reached 89c even with fans at max for my AIO. I reapplied thermal paste and got it down to low to mid 80's.

ROG real bench does fine at 4.5 and doesn't get the cpu anywhere near as hot (mid 70s at max). It runs for a while with no problem. But at 4.5, prime and occt crash instantly. 4.375 does not.

Suggestions on what to do?
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Latest version of p95 blend draws 240w from a 5820k @1.3v according to ai suite... and that's AFTER I dropped my clock from 4.5 to 4.375... temps reached 89c even with fans at max for my AIO. I reapplied thermal paste and got it down to low to mid 80's.

ROG real bench does fine at 4.5 and doesn't get the cpu anywhere near as hot (mid 70s at max). It runs for a while with no problem. But at 4.5, prime and occt crash instantly. 4.375 does not.

Suggestions on what to do?

Hey @Jpmboy remind you of someone biggrin.gif

I went through this the other day, don't use the latest version of prime95, I was getting 180w from 4.3Ghz@1.2v and my system would still hang until I bumped up the VCCIN and core voltages to stupid levels.
There's nothing that will stress a system like Prime95 does, not sure why OCCT is crashing though, it doesn't draw the power like p95, and I can run OCCT fine using large data sets.

Jpmboy, still finding VCCSA of 1.100v (0.26 offset) more stable than anything lower, it's got to be better than the 0.36v offset the Auto setting uses..
Just don't want to fiddle too much more as the system is stable from what I've been doing. (x264 1080p encoding, Gaming, Photoshop).
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Well my system was pretty stable until I updated my bios. Then I lost all my settings and now I can't get it back to where it was...
I prefer stability to max performance. It would suck if I was doing engineering homework or tests and crash. Is aida and rog the two recommended ones for general stability? Instant prime crash has me a bit uneasy. I'm running the CPU:OCCT not the Linpack version and that also crashes within 10 seconds.
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So long AIO, here comes CWL...! biggrin.gif

Its was about time I ordered one for my self this time, instead of for others.

Just ordered an Alphacool NexXxoS Cool Answer 480 D5/UT60! Lets see how far this 5820k can go.. thumb.gif
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Well my system was pretty stable until I updated my bios. Then I lost all my settings and now I can't get it back to where it was...
I prefer stability to max performance. It would suck if I was doing engineering homework or tests and crash. Is aida and rog the two recommended ones for general stability? Instant prime crash has me a bit uneasy. I'm running the CPU:OCCT not the Linpack version and that also crashes within 10 seconds.

Spoke to soon mate, didn't have enough voltage for OCCT to run 4.3Ghz, 1.2v wasn't enough. 1.21v was, froze after 5 minutes.
But I just dropped back to 4.2Ghz@1.19v and OCCT is fine...
Still locks up in Prime95, but that doesn't concern me at all, it's trying to draw 188w of power, not like OCCT's 144w, which is quiet normal..

@Jpmboy
Is this better, dropping back to 4.2Ghz allowed me to lower the VCCSA back to 1.050v:

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