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anyone interested in helping me out?

i just got done building my "beast" a few days ago. got everything set up. got my GPU overclocked and benched and now its time to overclock my 5820K.... so i def need help as i am fairly new to this. i tried for 4.5ghz, (124x36) with core voltage @ 1.3V highest temp i got there was around 67-68 max... seemed to run fine, but after 15 minutes on aida64 its crashed :/ anyway to mess with any of the numbers to make it stable? or get it close? ill be home tonight and can post pics as we go...

thanks in advance gents.

I had the same problem a few pages back and couldn't get it resolved so I dumped trying to use XMP and left memory set to auto. With memory to auto BCLK was 100 instead of 125. With the multiplier set at 45 and core voltage at 1.3 I was able to hit 4.5. From there I started dialing back core voltage. Left the voltage at adaptive and applied a little offset to core voltage, +15 I think. I say try this method and see what happens. I don't know if it's the mobo or memory, but DDR4 3000 XMP was useless above 4.0 ghz for me. At least auto is using SPD timings.

Currently running 4.5 with 1.289 volts and ran AIDA64 for 3 hours, no crashes. It's still a work in progress to see how low I can take core voltage at 4.5 but I'm pretty happy where it's at. Could probably even hit 4.6.

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I had the same problem a few pages back and couldn't get it resolved so I dumped trying to use XMP and left memory set to auto. With memory to auto BCLK was 100 instead of 125. With the multiplier set at 45 and core voltage at 1.3 I was able to hit 4.5. From there I started dialing back core voltage. Left the voltage at adaptive and applied a little offset to core voltage, +15 I think. I say try this method and see what happens. I don't know if it's the mobo or memory, but DDR4 3000 XMP was useless above 4.0 ghz for me. At least auto is using SPD timings.

Currently running 4.5 with 1.289 volts and ran AIDA64 for 3 hours, no crashes. It's still a work in progress to see how low I can take core voltage at 4.5 but I'm pretty happy where it's at. Could probably even hit 4.6.

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I had the same problem a few pages back and couldn't get it resolved so I dumped trying to use XMP and left memory set to auto. With memory to auto BCLK was 100 instead of 125. With the multiplier set at 45 and core voltage at 1.3 I was able to hit 4.5. From there I started dialing back core voltage. Left the voltage at adaptive and applied a little offset to core voltage, +15 I think. I say try this method and see what happens. I don't know if it's the mobo or memory, but DDR4 3000 XMP was useless above 4.0 ghz for me. At least auto is using SPD timings.

Currently running 4.5 with 1.289 volts and ran AIDA64 for 3 hours, no crashes. It's still a work in progress to see how low I can take core voltage at 4.5 but I'm pretty happy where it's at. Could probably even hit 4.6.



I'm working on mine right now. I'm at 1.3 v 100x44 and xmp 3000 and I'm running great.

Any thing you recommend to get to 45-47?
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Well my system was pretty stable until I updated my bios. Then I lost all my settings and now I can't get it back to where it was...
I prefer stability to max performance. It would suck if I was doing engineering homework or tests and crash. Is aida and rog the two recommended ones for general stability? Instant prime crash has me a bit uneasy. I'm running the CPU:OCCT not the Linpack version and that also crashes within 10 seconds.
unless your homework is going to run something that hammers the FPU with AVX2, FMA3 or the like, stressors like x264, x265, realbench, occt will test the system well enough... add to that 5-10 laps with HCI memtest, and a short run of either IBT, AID64 FPU VP8, Julia and Mandel and you have high current tested at a level any real-world app will throw at the cpu. Save those bios settings as a gamer, drop the core and cache 1 notch and save that as your Fail-safe. thumb.gif
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Spoke to soon mate, didn't have enough voltage for OCCT to run 4.3Ghz, 1.2v wasn't enough. 1.21v was, froze after 5 minutes.
But I just dropped back to 4.2Ghz@1.19v and OCCT is fine...
Still locks up in Prime95, but that doesn't concern me at all, it's trying to draw 188w of power, not like OCCT's 144w, which is quiet normal..

@Jpmboy
Is this better, dropping back to 4.2Ghz allowed me to lower the VCCSA back to 1.050v:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I'm not sure why VSA would need adjusting on that MB with a 100-125MHz clock change. It really shouldn't. Frankly I run 1.0375 with 8 ram sticks for cpu clocks from 4125 thru 4.625 on 125 with 3000c13, and 1.000 for 4.2 - 4.7 on 100 with 2666c12.
Either way, 1.10V VSA should be fine to use, and 0.95 is "finer" wink.gif, but you still have that in an acceptable range. Again, there's no single stress test AFAIK that will "deconvolute" VSA from the several other voltage rails on the chip... best it to use it normally and if you see a q code like B6, 55 0r 41 at boot (ASUS mobos) raise or lower VSA and continue. MOre is not always better with VSA. thumb.gif
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best it to use it normally and if you see a q code like 55 0r 41 at boot (ASUS mobos) raise or lower VSA and continue. MOre is not always better with VSA. thumb.gif

I never see that at all during boots, I just get hard locks and then the BIOS spits the dummy, and you can't make any changes with out it going into a 04 - 55 loop over and over again until clearing the CMOS,
Clear the BIOS set the same overclock and the machine boots perfectly.
Though if something is out during the first training it will just throw a "Overclock failed, press F1 to enter setup" message, the board has Qcodes and doesn't use them properly.. rolleyes.gif
Don't think the MSI board handle failed overclocks very well, and probably need a BIOS update, but they weren't very forthcoming when I spoke to them about it.. biggrin.gif

There's no way I could get 0.95v, tried and failed on that many times, Windows would only boot randomly..lol.
If OCCT hard locked within 120 seconds on my 4.3Ghz@1.2v overclock I'd say I needed a little more voltage to start with and I could of been blaming the lower VCCSA voltages, sucks when the board/Windows doesn't throw BSOD when the CPU voltage is too low, if something is out anywhere I'll just get a hard lock, @Mr-Dark found the same with his Gaming 7 board..lol.
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Spoke to soon mate, didn't have enough voltage for OCCT to run 4.3Ghz, 1.2v wasn't enough. 1.21v was, froze after 5 minutes.
But I just dropped back to 4.2Ghz@1.19v and OCCT is fine...
Still locks up in Prime95, but that doesn't concern me at all, it's trying to draw 188w of power, not like OCCT's 144w, which is quiet normal..
OCCT's power drop is only 10 watts lower for me compared to prime. But it works fine now with clock lowered by 1 notch.
Getting 24/7 prime stable seems impossible without lowering the clocks dramatically. Most things that can use 12/16 threads run fast enough with a decent OC. But dropping 300-400MHz is a significant loss in single threaded performance. Plus I don't have the patience to diagnose a failure after 24 hours, especially with so many voltages to fine tune. 1 worker reported a rounding error after some time rolleyes.gif

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unless your homework is going to run something that hammers the FPU with AVX2, FMA3 or the like, stressors like x264, x265, realbench, occt will test the system well enough... add to that 5-10 laps with HCI memtest, and a short run of either IBT, AID64 FPU VP8, Julia and Mandel and you have high current tested at a level any real-world app will throw at the cpu. Save those bios settings as a gamer, drop the core and cache 1 notch and save that as your Fail-safe. thumb.gif
Thanks. I do quite a bit of math, but haven't run into any major problems yet, except some random BSODs that seem to have been fixed by increasing ram timing from 1 to 2. It seems some ddr4 kits do not move at all regardless of voltage. I have a feeling 4.375 is more stable but I need to do some more tests. 100MHz isn't the end of the world for general use wink.gif
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I never see that at all during boots, I just get hard locks and then the BIOS spits the dummy, and you can't make any changes with out it going into a 04 - 55 loop over and over again until clearing the CMOS,
Clear the BIOS set the same overclock and the machine boots perfectly.
Though if something is out during the first training it will just throw a "Overclock failed, press F1 to enter setup" message, the board has Qcodes and doesn't use them properly.. rolleyes.gif
Don't think the MSI board handle failed overclocks very well, and probably need a BIOS update, but they weren't very forthcoming when I spoke to them about it.. biggrin.gif

There's no way I could get 0.95v, tried and failed on that many times, Windows would only boot randomly..lol.
If OCCT hard locked within 120 seconds on my 4.3Ghz@1.2v overclock I'd say I needed a little more voltage to start with and I could of been blaming the lower VCCSA voltages, sucks when the board/Windows doesn't throw BSOD when the CPU voltage is too low, if something is out anywhere I'll just get a hard lock, @Mr-Dark found the same with his Gaming 7 board..lol.

The same here it's the bios almost need some update.. but i'm very close to change the whole setup thumb.gif
   
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OK guys. well after 2 days of tweaking i think im finally done overclocking my CPU and GPU =)


Here is where im at as of now. stable and happy =)









and my benchmarks...







not sure what that driver error is about
Edited by Alpina 7 - 11/4/15 at 11:16pm
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What software is that? The one that has dashboard, specs, settings etc.
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What software is that? The one that has dashboard, specs, settings etc.

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That is quite a hungry processor. Are you sure you can no longer go down on Vcore?

Quite a lazy memory kit too. Considering it is spec'd at that clock, hmmm. rolleyes.gif
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