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post #16451 of 22010
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good luck bro. But do you really think it is degraded? Run up the voltage (vccin and vcore).. where will it start needing >>100mV per 100MHz?

Yep. 4.400 ain`t even stable at all during OOCT. Testing with 1.950V VCCIN.

It was more stable yesterday, so i feel that it keeps degrading, so better change it out while i can?

Is the OC ability better on the old ones versus the new ones or is it still totally random?

Are you overclocking cache too? Cache instability can feel like degradation because it is so finicky, and can seem to destabilize instead of just instantly show issues.
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I have tested both stock, overclocked and overvoltet but stock frequency on cache. Same result sadly. frown.gif
post #16453 of 22010
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I have tested both stock, overclocked and overvoltet but stock frequency on cache. Same result sadly. frown.gif

I find that I need an extra 0.02V to pass 3hrs of OCCT compared to x264. I only use 0.01V increments however.
post #16454 of 22010
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OCCT crashed with that setting.. Whea bsod. frown.gif

Will it stop to degrade?

4.4 needing a bit more than 1.2v for occt sounds about right to me. I run 1.216 on core and ran into occt crashing trouble trying to go from my stable 4.4core 3.7cache settings to an upped 4.0cache settings. I think it ultimately will take more vcore to do it. Here's the trouble i'm talking about...
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Nope, no soup for me arrowheadsmiley.png Still fails with the DRAM changes reverted and in particular still seeing voltage irregularities and vCore jumping up to 1.232 instead of staying at 1.216. The labels occt uses are confusing, but it's clear that something goes very amiss around the 44m mark in this run.
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I'm back to x44core x37cache for now.

Here's what those same plots look like for a passing run with cache at x37 multi. VIN5 is a mess in the 4.0 cache run.
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OCCT labels things oddly, i haven't mapped all the occt names to how other tools name the particular voltage plots i choose to show the instability, but I think occt's VIN5 is hwinfo64's VCOREREFIN.
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Jmpboy, here's the bios settings for the stable x44 + x37 overclock and i've annoted the changes i made go to x40 on cache.
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Ok, so there's ^^^ a bunch of post-mortem data for the terminally curious to look at.

After seeing how little improvement there is with increasing the cache from x37 to x40, I think it'd be a better use of time to focus on increasing the memory clock to 2666 or higher. I think I'll set aside further cache overclocking for now.
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post #16455 of 22010
dram svid support
cpu support svid are both disabled
if oveclock ram and cpu?
post #16456 of 22010
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4.4 needing a bit more than 1.2v for occt sounds about right to me. I run 1.216 on core and ran into occt crashing trouble trying to go from my stable 4.4core 3.7cache settings to an upped 4.0cache settings. I think it ultimately will take more vcore to do it. Here's the trouble i'm talking about...
Here's what those same plots look like for a passing run with cache at x37 multi. VIN5 is a mess in the 4.0 cache run.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)






OCCT labels things oddly, i haven't mapped occt names to how aida names the particular voltage plots i choose to show the instability.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Jmpboy, here's the bios settings for the stable x44 + x37 overclock and i've annoted the changes i made go to x40 on cache.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)










Ok, so there's ^^^ a bunch of post-mortem data for the terminally curious to look at.

After seeing how little improvement there is with increasing the cache from x37 to x40, I think it'd be a better use of time to focus on increasing the memory clock to 2666 or higher. I think I'll set aside further cache overclocking for now.

Ok so i was looking at some of your bios setting and noticed you are setting xmp profile and then changing the timings and frequency? seems odd to me as i usually set xmp if want to run that speed and run manual if doing anything else.
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post #16457 of 22010
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dram svid support
cpu support svid are both disabled
if oveclock ram and cpu?

Yeah, disable them.
post #16458 of 22010
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Yeah, disable them.


thanks
and is best for these settings to overclock the processor and RAM:
oc tuner is set tting to to keep current?
lcc better on or level 6-7?
cpu current capability is best to set-up 140%?
CPU power phase control?
post #16459 of 22010
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Ok so i was looking at some of your bios setting and noticed you are setting xmp profile and then changing the timings and frequency? seems odd to me as i usually set xmp if want to run that speed and run manual if doing anything else.

Ok, i didn't know that was odd to do that.

Does XMP do more than set memory timing values?

My thinking was to plug in the xmp settings as the basis of the 'auto' provided mem timing values, and then to tweak from that basis. Otherwise, I'd have no clue how to set the pages and pages of timing values.

edit: actually "my thinking" was probably a rationalization, probably my real reason for picking xmp at the top was because both eztune and aisuite do it that way, i had saved what settings they gave me for reference and probably copied it from them
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post #16460 of 22010
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thanks
and is best for these settings to overclock the processor and RAM:
oc tuner is set tting to to keep current?
lcc better on or level 6-7?
cpu current capability is best to set-up 140%?
CPU power phase control?

What kind of hardware do you have, cpu mobo ram? put your rig in your sig (http://www.overclock.net/rigbuilder).

The 'optimized' power phase control made a huge difference on my asus x99-pro board. Dramatic decrease in VRM temps at idle and enhanced stability, that's what finally got me stable at 4.4.
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