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kill-a-watt meter will record your entire system.
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Idle vs load state measurement only, untill you disable cores.. then I can see the power drop to 5+ watts per core at idle with c-states disabled. Browsing with svid enabled (and override on Auto) i get 38W by AID64. Drop once cache down clocks. Hits 240W with aid64 stresstest.
Keeping SVID enabled is not advised on x99 when overclocked (unlike z170)... at least disabling it stabilized things when pushing it.
Load Wattage, Svid disabled:

SVID Auto:

SVID Disabled enabled:


230W with a 4.6/4.1 OC @ 1.26V - adaptive - in bios? nah

I don't have a clamp-meter handy... wink.gif
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It's late over here, but where is CPU power consumption on those screenshots? sleepysmileyanim.gif

I can use my Killawatt to find the Delta between 0% and 100% load, but not the actual 0% load voltage. ASUS mobos go weird and stupid when trying to report CPU Package Power with SVID disabled. Suddenly they break the laws of physics and go to 3 Watts.
Edited by Desolutional - 1/30/16 at 7:07pm
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It's late over here, but where is CPU power consumption on those screenshots? sleepysmileyanim.gif

I can use my Killawatt to find the Delta between 0% and 100% load, but not the actual 0% load voltage. ASUS mobos go weird and stupid when trying to report CPU Package Power with SVID disabled. Suddenly they break the laws of physics and go to 3 Watts.
It was kinda a retorical question i asked, for that exact reason and that the power reading is just strange. redface.gif Bottom pic package power is in the stats on the right. and yeah, with svid disabled power reading is basically off.. with it enabled they just seem wrong. I can't believe this is doing 240W in AID64 stress,.. would be well over 300W in p95 (not gonna try) ohno-smiley.gif
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It's about right, 230-240w on Aida core+fpu+cache at 1.2/1.25v (core/cache) is what I got.
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Quick question guys... i noticed that if i enable C6 state...my CPU idle power consumption drops to almost 20w ...and keeps jumping from 20 to 40 to 60 (probably cause of the background processes). Any reason not to have it enabled on OC'd CPU's ?

It reduces cache OC headroom, also reduces performance from idle-load states. Think of a car switching from neutral to first every time you need to move, it takes longer than staying in first. Unless you're running stock, leave your C-States at C1. The issue with the power going from 20 to 40 to 60 is to do with the fact that the CPU is too slow in C6 to handle the idle requests, so it has to boost frequency. Only difference in C1 state is your CPU will be 30W idle instead of 20W.
CPU core does not working in C6 state because it is idle state. C1/C1E/C3/C6/C7 are low-power idle states while C0 is operating state. Core in low-power idle states can be wake up to C0 state when there's job to execute. So you can see why there's jump in power consumption. Not because it's slow in C6/7 state.

Kill-a-watt is perfect tool to measure power consumption for 0% & 100% load. If you want more accurate reading, then you want one of those power meter that you can connect between the motherboard 8-pin CPU power connector & the 8-pin CPU power cable.
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I use manual voltages, and the CPU power consumption in W i see it with AI Suite 3.
In Aida64 stress test with cpu/fpu/cache/memory my power consumption goes up to 180w. From what i saw, p95 and occt draw more than 200w from my 5820k, overheating it and causing it to be unstable, thus i decided to not use those two for stability test.
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CPU core does not working in C6 state because it is idle state. C1/C1E/C3/C6/C7 are low-power idle states while C0 is operating state. Core in low-power idle states can be wake up to C0 state when there's job to execute. So you can see why there's jump in power consumption. Not because it's slow in C6/7 state.

C-States introduce latency, and the deeper the state, the longer it takes for the CPU to wake up. For very light workloads which complete quickly, C6 actually does more harm than good to performance. Yes they're lower power states, but the waking process doesn't boost frequency, the actual PC needing more resources boosts frequency of core and cache (leading to the power consumption bump). 1.2GHz simply isn't enough for some idle tasks. Never mind the fact that package C-States reduce cache OCing headroom, they simply aren't worth the hassle when OCed for a few extra Watts saving. I've had personally experience with that as I ran C6 for more than a month.
Edited by Desolutional - 1/31/16 at 5:35am
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Originally Posted by Kimir View Post

It's about right, 230-240w on Aida core+fpu+cache at 1.2/1.25v (core/cache) is what I got.

I mean, sure we get the same value in AID64... but I can;t believe it's correct. Once this work unit finishes, I'll put the killawattt in-line and and see what it says for 0-100% load for the cpu.
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I get 185W consumption in AIDA64 with all 3 CPU, FPU, Cache boxes ticked, with the FIVR reporting I'm using 187W. That's with a hexcore however, so it'll be different for you I guess. 1.24V Vcore and 1.23V cache. FIVR doesn't seem to become inaccurate if VCCIN is changed neither. Would be interesting to see what you get with the killawatt.thumb.gif
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