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So, did I win the silicon lottery or not?

I ran a battery of preliminary tests for the first time today on my newly overclocked 5930K at these OC settings:

Core freq: 4.5 GHz @ 1.275v

Ring freq: 3.5 GHz @ 1.2v

DRAM: 4x4GB XMP 3200MHz 15-15-15-35 @ 1.35v


The good: it ran RealBench benchmark/5 passes and stress test/1 hour without a sweat, never going above 63C. thumb.gif

The bad: I then tried Prime95 27.9 default test and it Immediately locked up and blue screened. I went into the UEFI and raised the vcore to 1.285v, it still immediately locked up. 1.3v, same thing, immediate lock. So, I tried other things that may be causing the lock ups by setting ring freq. back to default 3GHz, nope, locked up. Then set the DRAM back to default 2133MHz @ 1.2v - nope. mad.gif

I then relented and set everything back to the above settings except I lowered the core freq. to 4.4 GHz and Prime95 has been running fine for the last couple hours without ever going above 72C.

Unless someone has an idea I missed, it looks like this Haswell-E has a seriously thick wall at 4.4GHz with Prime95. Or, should I just forget Prime95 this time around, and keep testing it @ 4.5+ GHz?
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

Im running the same vcore as vring checked with DMM. vcore is pretty much spot on with DMM.
4.6ghz /4.4Ghz 1.31vcore 1.28vring in bios, 1.31vring with DMM
Once it warms up i'll probably run 45/43 1.25vcore 1.22vring. wink.gif

I figured you weren't electrocuting that chip. Frankly, I have no idea why the guide has that sentence in it unless it is there to warn folks that it may actually take 1.45V to stabilize 4.5 cache on some CPUs.
44 and 45 cache on my 5960X take >1.375V 43 is 1.3V for stability - that's my ceiling for cache.
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So, did I win the silicon lottery or not?
I ran a battery of preliminary tests for the first time today on my newly overclocked 5930K at these OC settings:
Core freq: 4.5 GHz @ 1.275v
Ring freq: 3.5 GHz @ 1.2v
DRAM: 4x4GB XMP 3200MHz 15-15-15-35 @ 1.35v
The good: it ran RealBench benchmark/5 passes and stress test/1 hour without a sweat, never going above 63C. thumb.gif
The bad: I then tried Prime95 27.9 default test and it Immediately locked up and blue screened. I went into the UEFI and raised the vcore to 1.285v, it still immediately locked up. 1.3v, same thing, immediate lock. So, I tried other things that may be causing the lock ups by setting ring freq. back to default 3GHz, nope, locked up. Then set the DRAM back to default 2133MHz @ 1.2v - nope. mad.gif
I then relented and set everything back to the above settings except I lowered the core freq. to 4.4 GHz and Prime95 has been running fine for the last couple hours without ever going above 72C.
Unless someone has an idea I missed, it looks like this Haswell-E has a seriously thick wall at 4.4GHz with Prime95. Or, should I just forget Prime95 this time around, and keep testing it @ 4.5+ GHz?
27.9 lacks the latest AVX instruction set... 28.5 is even worse. Use OCCT (if you must) instead. otherwise, 25+ laps of x264, a solid x265 with 4K, x4 P-mode and high priority. AID64 cache test - solo. And HCI memtest to top it off. thumb.gif
Edited by Jpmboy - 2/6/16 at 8:39pm
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The bad: I then tried Prime95 27.9 default test and it Immediately locked up and blue screened.

27.9 is fine on 4 core platform, but on 2011-3 I'd stay away from it altogether. You don't want to power degrade your shiny chip biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

44 and 45 cache on my 5960X take >1.375V 43 is 1.3V for stability - that's my ceiling for cache.

My first chip was unable to boot 4500 cache, second one did 4.5 1.2V all day no problem biggrin.gif
Edited by aerotracks - 2/6/16 at 8:31pm
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27.9 is fine on 4 core platform, but on 2011-3 I'd stay away from it altogether. You don't want to power degrade your shiny chip biggrin.gif
My first chip was unable to boot 4500 cache, second one did 4.5 1.2V all day no problem biggrin.gif

yeah - my launch chip did 45 cache easy and <1.3V, butr core was not great. this one is the opposite. 4.7 core at 1.3V is good enough. Besides, it's basically an aged architecture.. let's see what the next 10-core looks like. thumb.gif

oh yeah - and it's folding on 12 threads at 4.7 100% load for the last 7 days , while still using it for everything else. biggrin.gif
Edited by Jpmboy - 2/6/16 at 8:37pm
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yeah - my launch chip did 45 cache easy and <1.3V, butr core was not great. this one is the opposite. 4.7 core at 1.3V is good enough. Besides, it's basically an aged architecture.. let's see what the next 10-core looks like. thumb.gif

+1, can't wait for the next bigger chip smile.gif
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Thanx for the quick input guys. I will take your advice and stay far away from Prime95 with this one. thumb.gif
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I figured you weren't electrocuting that chip. Frankly, I have no idea why the guide has that sentence in it unless it is there to warn folks that it may actually take 1.45V to stabilize 4.5 cache on some CPUs.
44 and 45 cache on my 5960X take >1.375V 43 is 1.3V for stability - that's my ceiling for cache.
27.9 lacks the latest AVX instruction set... 28.5 is even worse. Use OCCT (if you must) instead. otherwise, 25+ laps of x264, a solid x265 with 4K, x4 P-mode and high priority. AID64 cache test - solo. And HCI memtest to top it off. thumb.gif

*See 1.45v on the OC2 voltage for msi or 1.45VL6 voltage for gigabyte should be ok and even the RVE may be auto ruling that voltage to around the same depending on how ever that board handle's it.

My chip for example vl6 can be @ 1.4v and boot up to 4.3Ghz but it wont always work. with 1.42v i have yet to have boot issue for 4.3Ghz cache. also 4.2Ghz has no issue with 1.4VL6.
When moving up to 4.4Ghz uncore 1.45VL6 is the sweet spot for my chip.

*Now im not exactly sure how msi has them configured with the OC1/2/3 voltages but they sound very similar especially OC2 and VL6 for gigabyte.
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Staying with 4.5 core, 4.0 ring, 3200 memory. Does a 2300 HEVC run 1800 cine.

 

1 thing ive noticed, the ring voltage changes from offset to fixed.

 

3.5 ring will be offset with auto volts, but 4.0 even with auto volts jumps ship to fixed volts by the look of it.

 

Bunch of OC sub settings on the MSI X99 (not current setup).

 

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01


Edited by GunnzAkimbo - 2/7/16 at 5:17am
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hello guys , i own a 5820k , i have ordered a custom loop and soon i will have it. Currently my oc is 4.2ghz at 1.150V but i can do a 4.6ghz tested with real bench and aida64 for some hours at 1.3V (max heat 77 on 2 cores with seidon ver2 ) (more information about my rig: http://www.overclock.net/t/1590365/5820k-overclocking-voltage-multipliers-cache-speed-and-other-settings ) . Should i push the voltage up to 1.4V with the custom loop or voltage can still hurt my chip with low temps?
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hello guys , i own a 5820k , i have ordered a custom loop and soon i will have it. Currently my oc is 4.2ghz at 1.150V but i can do a 4.6ghz tested with real bench and aida64 for some hours at 1.3V (max heat 77 on 2 cores with seidon ver2 ) (more information about my rig: http://www.overclock.net/t/1590365/5820k-overclocking-voltage-multipliers-cache-speed-and-other-settings ) . Should i push the voltage up to 1.4V with the custom loop or voltage can still hurt my chip with low temps?

You can for benchmarking/testing but 1.4v is considered high for X99 even for water for long periods.

Usually 1.32v is the max "safe" recommended for 24/7 on X99. You can use up to 1.35v for 24/7 but you are risking degrading the chip in the long run.

Most probably you will change the pc before anything degrades but then maybe not. You never know. Might degrade faster depending on chip/temps.

That's mostly why many are recommending to keep it below 1.32v and even better if possible at max 1.3v. thumb.gif


EDIT: Just read your thread. You could after you set up your custom loop, try testing stability with OCCT. If it passes that, you are good to go.

Otherwise Aida64/Realbench are good enough for everyday stability. 1.3-1.31V for your 4.6Ghz OC should be fine assuming temps are good.

As another member said in your thread, 4.6@1.3v is above average. Most max out 4.4-4.5GHz at 1.3v. Good chip. wink.gif
Edited by Koniakki - 2/7/16 at 9:42am
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