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post #16941 of 22018
I bought 5820K couple of months ago, now I finally have funds for the motherboard and memory. I've narrowed my choice between MSI X99A SLI and Asus X99-A, which one I should buy? MSI is 220€, Asus is 260€ so is the price difference worth it? I'm on pretty limited budget. My understanding is that with Asus you can overclock the cache much higher thanks to the OC socket, which MSI doesn't have. On the other hand I love the pure black looks of MSI.

As for RAM, would decent CL15 2666Mhz kit be plenty enough? Correct me if I'm wrong but Haswell-E doesn't seem to benefit from high memory clocks outside benchmarks, IMC is crappy compared to Skylake. This will a pure gaming rig.
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post #16942 of 22018
For a pure gaming rig, shouldn't you have picked a Skylake then? biggrin.gif
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post #16943 of 22018
I was also between these 2 but i chose the x99-a/3.1 because of the overclock socket and better quality but as i sait it takes about 40secs to boot inside windows. I wouldn't buy a skylake because of the bent problems , bugs on prime and less cores. (Its more future considerable to have a six core one instead of a 4core one even directx 12 may use up to six cores)
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post #16944 of 22018
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I was also between these 2 but i chose the x99-a/3.1 because of the overclock socket and better quality but as i sait it takes about 40secs to boot inside windows. I wouldn't buy a skylake because of the bent problems , bugs on prime and less cores. (Its more future considerable to have a six core one instead of a 4core one even directx 12 may use up to six cores)

To be perfectly honest, O.C. socket doesn't mean "better overclockability in general", it just means you can push the cache that much more. Quality is expected as most X99 boards have to be built to a high spec, bearing in mind Intel's own advice on what the board should be designed for. Boot time is dependent on the boot device interface and medium, i.e. SSD is way faster than HDD, PCIe SSD is a little faster than SSD; either way, an SSD will improve boot times massively. Skylake's bent IHS is because of people not reading the instructions telling them hand tighten screws without the force of Hulk Hogan. Prime bugs are Prime specific; unless you have a hobby of crunching long sequential formulae to find the magic mersene prime, that won't affect you in real workloads.

Less cores is definitely a reason to move away from Z170 however! Gotta' have more cores, and initial DX12 samples scale up to six cores. Pretty much a safe bet to go with the 5820K. 5930K is only really useful for the extra PCIe lanes for 3x+ SLI/CF setups.
post #16945 of 22018
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To be perfectly honest, O.C. socket doesn't mean "better overclockability in general", it just means you can push the cache that much more. Quality is expected as most X99 boards have to be built to a high spec, bearing in mind Intel's own advice on what the board should be designed for. Boot time is dependent on the boot device interface and medium, i.e. SSD is way faster than HDD, PCIe SSD is a little faster than SSD; either way, an SSD will improve boot times massively. Skylake's bent IHS is because of people not reading the instructions telling them hand tighten screws without the force of Hulk Hogan. Prime bugs are Prime specific; unless you have a hobby of crunching long sequential formulae to find the magic mersene prime, that won't affect you in real workloads.

Less cores is definitely a reason to move away from Z170 however! Gotta' have more cores, and initial DX12 samples scale up to six cores. Pretty much a safe bet to go with the 5820K. 5930K is only really useful for the extra PCIe lanes for 3x+ SLI/CF setups.

Ive got a X99/5820K Rig.. 2-250GB Corsair SSD's and its boots pretty quick but when it gets to the windows loading screen its hangs there for about 15-20Seconds.... any ideas as to why or how i can get it Quicker ?
post #16946 of 22018
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Ive got a X99/5820K Rig.. 2-250GB Corsair SSD's and its boots pretty quick but when it gets to the windows loading screen its hangs there for about 15-20Seconds.... any ideas as to why or how i can get it Quicker ?
You have mapped drives that's slowing it down? Type in msconfig from the run menu and see what's at startup that's slowing you down.
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post #16947 of 22018
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You have mapped drives that's slowing it down? Type in msconfig from the run menu and see what's at startup that's slowing you down.

ok when i get home ill do this
post #16948 of 22018
I have a samsung 951 m.2 but still post time until bios splash screen is about 20secs after that it will boot fast in windows. I searched about this problem and it has to do something about ram training and check ups(X99-A and Deluxe seems to be effected only) . Here is something about that bug : http://www.extremetech.com/computing/220953-skylake-bug-causes-intel-chips-to-freeze-in-complex-workloads . if you google it you will learn more but to be honest is not good to use prime95 on any haswell and as you said not really a real life problem . Now 5820k and 6700k skylake are about the same price but 5930k is 200€ more expensive. Oc socket means also more accurate and stable voltage on the chip. One more detail is that skylake has still 2 channel support and x99 has 4channel which means that if it is supported ram bandwidth will be about 2 times more.
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To be perfectly honest, O.C. socket doesn't mean "better overclockability in general", it just means you can push the cache that much more.

Hello

Memory as well. smile.gif
post #16950 of 22018
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ok when i get home ill do this
Also remove anything plugged into the usb ports temporarily.
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