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Agreed....i've over exaggerated. The difference is ~+10*. Here's a screen from 2 weeks ago. Check it out.
You don't want running AI Suite with other monitoring software. AI Suite is known like to "fight" with other monitoring software. You can run HWMonitor, HWINFO, AIDA64, etc at the same time because they have some kind of scheduling between them but not with AI Suite. So either you use HWMonitor/AIDA64 or AI Suite.
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:|...click on the image, bottom right of it click on original.....
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You don't want running AI Suite with other monitoring software. AI Suite is known like to "fight" with other monitoring software. You can run HWMonitor, HWINFO, AIDA64, etc at the same time because they have some kind of scheduling between them but not with AI Suite. So either you use HWMonitor/AIDA64 or AI Suite.

Dint know about that. But i do not really trust Ai Suite anyway...i'm using it more for the fan expert setup
Edited by arh-Roland - 2/13/16 at 8:57am
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AI Suite is reading the sensor (for the CPU) on the motherboard, not the core temperature.

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AI Suite displays the temperature value reported by the sensor intended for fan control Intel has made available over PECI. Custom built rules are then applied this value. I don't know of anyone that would seriously consider fan control based on core DTS values.


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Agreed....i've over exaggerated. The difference is ~+10*. Here's a screen from 2 weeks ago. Check it out. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Hello

Or approximately 2C difference if compared to the core reporting the lowest temperature instead of the highest.
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Hello!

Any ideas what voltage I need to bump up; my CPU OC on its own is stable and my RAM OC on its own is stable but both OCs together I get WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR?
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Hello!

Any ideas what voltage I need to bump up; my CPU OC on its own is stable and my RAM OC on its own is stable but both OCs together I get WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR?

Test your RAM with "stresstestapp" GSAT, that will isolate the RAM itself. Then you can focus on the Core. What are you using to test core stability?
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Well like I said everthing is stable on its own. I used some old memtest app for memory and OCCT for the CPU and for memory as well @ stock CPU.
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Well like I said everthing is stable on its own. I used some old memtest app for memory and OCCT for the CPU and for memory as well @ stock CPU.

I generally do: CPU > Cache > RAM. Anything higher than 2400MHz on RAM is negligible for gaming, and in general shouldn't make a big difference at all. Core definitely improves snappiness, Cache may help in certain cases, but it is similar to RAM in that it's not really useful in general or to gaming.

Always start with Core first. My favourite method of dialling in core stability is a one hour OCCT run, if it passes that, then go for three hours. Temps are allowed to go up to 80C here, OCCT really does push the CPU hard. I used to recommend h265, but OCCT is better for rock solid stability. OCCT is also a great VCCIN test too (more on that later).

For Cache, don't bother with this for now. Memory really should be tested with Linux GSAT... I really need to write a guide or something for that. You could also use HCI memtest up to 400%, but you need to make sure that the core is stable if you're going to use HCI memtest. Oh, and WHEA usually points to a RAM error. Vcore on this platform usually results in Watchdog errors.
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I generally do: CPU > Cache > RAM. Anything higher than 2400MHz on RAM is negligible for gaming, and in general shouldn't make a big difference at all. Core definitely improves snappiness, Cache may help in certain cases, but it is similar to RAM in that it's not really useful in general or to gaming.

That seems to be getting less and less true with newer titles and faster GPUs...reducing access time is becoming more relevant to FPS than it used to be.

Edit to add: Also, our very own Bradley did some independent testing on this a while back, and shows positive gains http://www.overclock.net/t/1487162/an-independent-study-does-the-speed-of-ram-directly-affect-fps-during-high-cpu-overhead-scenarios
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Hello!

Any ideas what voltage I need to bump up; my CPU OC on its own is stable and my RAM OC on its own is stable but both OCs together I get WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR?

That is almost always Core Voltage. When overclocking RAM &/or Cache along side Core, you may need to increase VCore by a notch or two. Core only on my 5820k is 4.5 @ 1.25, but kick the Cache to 42 and RAM to 3200, and I need 1.34 on core. Raja mentions this phenomena is his guide.
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When overclocking RAM &/or Cache along side Core, you may need to increase VCore by a notch or two. Core only on my 5820k is 4.5 @ 1.25, but kick the Cache to 42 and RAM to 3200, and I need 1.34 on core. Raja mentions this phenomena is his guide.

Thats my experience too. I run at 4.4core and 3.7cache but can't run 4.0 on cache w/o increasing vcore.
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guys , i have set in bios fully manual mode , i set my core voltage at 1.162v but in al suite 3 shows a 1.168v , when i start running real bench or occt after a minute the voltage bumps at 1.184v is that normal? jealoussmiley.gif
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