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New mobo and new chip. Taking this one slow. Champ w/F3 bios and 5960x - L527B829. Newest 5960x Malaysian batch that I've seen. . .980v stock vid under load. So far, 4.4 @ 1.145v core/ 1.84 vrin-input. I had a launch chip that was very nice on conventional cooling and slightly above average for extreme. Newer chips seem to be doing a bit better and thought what the hay, I'll take another stab at it.
    
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I tried loading bios to default but hwinfo is still giving me low cpu package readings. Ran benchmarks and the scores havent changed its just my cpu power in watts is reading like way low. Hope this is not an issue. Also just noticed dram power is low used to get up to 13watts now am getting like .5watts. I hope these are just inacurate readings.
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Figured out what the isssue is. I only get exremely low cpu package power readings when i set vccin aka cpu input voltage to 1.95 lv if i leave it at default my wattage readings jump back up to 140-160w range as apposed to the low 20-70w range increasing my vccin to 1.95 was showing. This is while running occt btw. So does this mean my mobo is not happy with me increasing vccin?
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Figured out what the isssue is. I only get exremely low cpu package power readings when i set vccin aka cpu input voltage to 1.95 lv if i leave it at default my wattage readings jump back up to 140-160w range as apposed to the low 20-70w range increasing my vccin to 1.95 was showing. This is while running occt btw. So does this mean my mobo is not happy with me increasing vccin?
Do not pay much attention to monitoring software wattage reading.
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So should i set my vccin back to 1.95? It had me stable at 4.5 at 1.27vcore. That wattage reading is worrying me since it only reads low when i change vccin.
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So should i set my vccin back to 1.95? It had me stable at 4.5 at 1.27vcore. That wattage reading is worrying me since it only reads low when i change vccin.

Is it obviously a bogus reading? So long as the system wasn't grossly under performing in a way you'd expect with such less power usage, I wouldn't let bogus readings bother me.

I disable CPU SVID support on mine, i think that's recommended when your running an overclock. Disabling that completely interferes with power monitoring thru hwinfo and aida and the like. The numbers are absurdly low like 0.6 watts at idle and 2 watts under full aida stress load. I have a kill-a-watt to let me keep an eye on total system usage.
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Your super low power readings is to do with CPU SVID. If you disable it, it returns low values, which are wrong. If you leave it on Auto, it will sometimes disable SVID depending on certain conditions. You can only force the power readings to be useful by forcing enable on SVID. Be aware though that power figures will be skewed depending on how far off your BCLK is from 100MHz. For example, if your BCLK is 125MHz, power figures will be estimated 25% higher than normal. If 150MHz, 50% higher, etc. This was something I discovered a day ago when using 166MHz BCLK.

I've never had a scenario where SVID enable messed with an overclock. Have yet to see someone say something like "I'm only 4.5ghz stable with SVID enabled, but 4.7GHz stable with SVID disabled"
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Your super low power readings is to do with CPU SVID. If you disable it, it returns low values, which are wrong. If you leave it on Auto, it will sometimes disable SVID depending on certain conditions. You can only force the power readings to be useful by forcing enable on SVID. Be aware though that power figures will be skewed depending on how far off your BCLK is from 100MHz. For example, if your BCLK is 125MHz, power figures will be estimated 25% higher than normal. If 150MHz, 50% higher, etc. This was something I discovered a day ago when using 166MHz BCLK.

I've never had a scenario where SVID enable messed with an overclock. Have yet to see someone say something like "I'm only 4.5ghz stable with SVID enabled, but 4.7GHz stable with SVID disabled"

Just enabled it for both the cpu and dram to see if I get accurate readings with aida. CPU seems pretty right. 25w idle, 150w load. I don't know what to expect for DRAM pwr usage, i see values ranging from about 1w to 18w.
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I've never had a scenario where SVID enable messed with an overclock. Have yet to see someone say something like "I'm only 4.5ghz stable with SVID enabled, but 4.7GHz stable with SVID disabled"

That's been my experience too. The FIVR is an absolute beast on this platform, the only thing you'll need to do at higher OCs is set it to High Performance mode. Snake oil in my honest opinion, but if you're benching for LN2 records then I guess having external voltage control is handy.

Gets 30W CPU on idle and 16W DRAM idle. As much as they say DDR4 was supposed to have a much lower power consumption that ain't true when you've got denser ICs: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e-cpu,review-33029-13.html
Edited by Desolutional - 2/25/16 at 2:12am
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Is it obviously a bogus reading? So long as the system wasn't grossly under performing in a way you'd expect with such less power usage, I wouldn't let bogus readings bother me.

I disable CPU SVID support on mine, i think that's recommended when your running an overclock. Disabling that completely interferes with power monitoring thru hwinfo and aida and the like. The numbers are absurdly low like 0.6 watts at idle and 2 watts under full aida stress load. I have a kill-a-watt to let me keep an eye on total system usage.
Disabling SVID is recommended for overclocking on Skylake, not Haswell.
    
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