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What kind of issues can mixing kits bring?

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What kind of memory speeds can a 5960X usually run with 4 sticks?
Is it worth it to go for 3000 or 3200 kits?
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What kind of memory speeds can a 5960X usually run with 4 sticks?
Is it worth it to go for 3000 or 3200 kits?

get the highest speed ram you can afford. the g skill 3200c14 kit (lol - i just sold one) works very well on x99
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What kind of memory speeds can a 5960X usually run with 4 sticks?
Is it worth it to go for 3000 or 3200 kits?


depends on what application u use your pc for, I guess faster ram might be of benefit to editing/rendering, compressing/uncompressing or in general dealing with huge portions of data . . .



but for gaming trust me it has absolutely ZERO benefit, literally zero more FPS, I just ran mine on stock ddr4 setting 2133mhz and I'm fine with it rolleyes.gif

wanna have faster load time? go for a fast SSD
wanna have better fps? get a better gpu
wanna have better overall performing/faster pc? remember this "CORE IS KING" thumb.gif


imho starting from sandy-bridge onwards, stuff other than the core (ram speed, uncore . . .) didn't matter or help that much at least when it comes to gaming. smile.gif
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What kind of memory speeds can a 5960X usually run with 4 sticks?
Is it worth it to go for 3000 or 3200 kits?

Good 3000 kits barely cost more than stock speed kits and usually have better cas latency too.

That said the perf bump is pretty small for a lot of apps.
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depends on what application u use your pc for, I guess faster ram might be of benefit to editing/rendering, compressing/uncompressing or in general dealing with huge portions of data . . .



but for gaming trust me it has absolutely ZERO benefit, literally zero more FPS, I just ran mine on stock ddr4 setting 2133mhz and I'm fine with it rolleyes.gif

wanna have faster load time? go for a fast SSD
wanna have better fps? get a better gpu
wanna have better overall performing/faster pc? remember this "CORE IS KING" thumb.gif


imho starting from sandy-bridge onwards, stuff other than the core (ram speed, uncore . . .) didn't matter or help that much at least when it comes to gaming. smile.gif

Sorry but you are totally wrong about memory speeds having zero benefit. CPU and memory work hand in hand the faster your memory is the faster your cpu can complete the instruction.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1600910/ts-ddr4-4000mhz-ram-increases-fps-in-games-by-10-19-over-ddr4-2133-ddr3-1600/0_50
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Sorry but you are totally wrong about memory speeds having zero benefit. CPU and memory work hand in hand the faster your memory is the faster your cpu can complete the instruction.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1600910/ts-ddr4-4000mhz-ram-increases-fps-in-games-by-10-19-over-ddr4-2133-ddr3-1600/0_50

what I said is that it has zero benefit to gaming, yes it might have benefit to other stuff like I said but to gaming seriously it has zero usable benefit

for example if u have 3200mhz ram vs 2133mhz, yes it might increase your fps from 160fps to 162fps say, but seriously what benefit do u get out of those 2 frames if you already are making that much frames, if your gpu can only make say 50fps; a faster ram will NOT help u reach 60fps not even a single more frame above your 50fps literally when the bottleneck is your gpu itself!

even when loading games, yes a faster ram might help u load the game in 18-19 secs instead of 20, but again if u have a fast SSD and a fast enough core to load it in 5secs ram is gonna be of no/little help here too

those numbers are just for example so that u get my point and I guess u do, go search for gaming benchmarks or why not try it your self then u will know what I'm saying smile.gif


moreover since the ram controller is built-in into the cpu then for faster ram speeds naturally it might need more voltage (dram voltage and/or uncore or maybe vcore) >> produce more heat >> destabilize your potentially stable oc or force u to be stable on a bit lower core speed which is counter-beneficial to your gaming performance, we all know core is king, right? wink.gif
but again I said it might, u might be lucky in the silicon lottery and have a chip that is able to be stable with high ram speeds along with high core speed, but why pay more and risk it? save the money and spend it on a better gpu and/or ssd and that's gonna be a lot more helpful to your gaming performance thumb.gif
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what I said is that it has zero benefit to gaming, yes it might have benefit to other stuff like I said but to gaming seriously it has zero usable benefit

for example if u have 3200mhz ram vs 2133mhz, yes it might increase your fps from 160fps to 162fps say, but seriously what benefit do u get out of those 2 frames if you already are making that much frames, if your gpu can only make say 50fps; a faster ram will NOT help u reach 60fps not even a single more frame above your 50fps literally when the bottleneck is your gpu itself!

even when loading games, yes a faster ram might help u load the game in 18-19 secs instead of 20, but again if u have a fast SSD and a fast enough core to load it in 5secs ram is gonna be of no/little help here too

those numbers are just for example so that u get my point and I guess u do, go search for gaming benchmarks or why not try it your self then u will know what I'm saying smile.gif


moreover since the ram controller is built-in into the cpu then for faster ram speeds naturally it might need more voltage (dram voltage and/or uncore or maybe vcore) >> produce more heat >> destabilize your potentially stable oc or force u to be stable on a bit lower core speed which is counter-beneficial to your gaming performance, we all know core is king, right? wink.gif
but again I said it might, u might be lucky in the silicon lottery and have a chip that is able to be stable with high ram speeds along with high core speed, but why pay more and risk it? save the money and spend it on a better gpu and/or ssd and that's gonna be a lot more helpful to your gaming performance thumb.gif

Righto.

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Righto.



wow, that's news to me, seriously I doubted my mental health after saying what I said and then seeing this! lol

but come on man, fallout 4 is VERY special case and I'm seriously surprised abt it!

here u go check the link there are benchmarks for other games which all prove my point was very close to the truth:

http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page3.html

yes fallout 4 benefitted a lot from ram speed but literally its the only one that did, I doubt other games will benefit the same


anyway thanks for the info, hmm, I guess I'm gonna have to consider ram speed on my next build then which is gonna be skylake-e biggrin.gif
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I wouldn't say that Fallout 4 is a special case, more like it's coded properly and takes advantage or higher frequency on component such as ram. rolleyes.gif
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