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Ahh so that means if i'm going to use linux, then I should ease up on my overclock even though it's fine in windows?
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Ahh so that means if i'm going to use linux, then I should ease up on my overclock even though it's fine in windows?

that depends on whether the OC you are using in windows is unstable or inefficient in that it triggers error correction... so, if you know what a WHEA is (machine-check error), windows will loop a proc call if checksums do not match, until is is an Uncorrectable Error. This can mask an underlying instability that Linux will not tolerate. If your windows OC is really stable, it will be in Linux also.
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Ahh so that means if i'm going to use linux, then I should ease up on my overclock even though it's fine in windows?

that depends on whether the OC you are using in windows is unstable or inefficient in that it triggers error correction... so, if you know what a WHEA is (machine-check error), windows will loop a proc call if checksums do not match, until is is an Uncorrectable Error. This can mask an underlying instability that Linux will not tolerate. If your windows OC is really stable, it will be in Linux also.

cool that's good to know. I'll run hcimemtest then. hopefully this will catch any memory and cache errors.


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Hi XTAC,

Ok few questions:

1. Adaptive core is ok?
2. I thought auto was ok for cache until i saw it hovering at 1.4v all of a sudden. It usually is at 0.9 in the bios/uefi. So manual is bad and just offset?
3. If I use offset, does that means I'll always be running at that voltage for the cache and it won't undervolt if i'm not actually using my max cache multiplier like how my cpu is set to throttle to save power and heat? I have my cache min set to auto.
4. For the life of me I can't see cache voltage in HWINFO. Is it named anything else? Please see attached.

1) Yes, adaptive Vcore is fine. You may get some voltage overshoot when running stress tests, but this is usually within acceptable limits. You can also run all your tests on a fixed manual voltage and convert it to Adaptive when you're done.

2) Auto cache is fine until you start cranking up the multiplier, much like the CPU multiplier. At the high end, you will to be too hot.

3) The offset will add that fixed amount to the base voltage level. So yes, when in a stepped down state with the cache multi bottomed out at 12,14,16 (whatever), you will be running approximately 0.20v over what is needed. We are all running this way and it is the only choice. However, this is more or less inconsequential toward power consumption and heat in the idle state. Overclocking the cache is fine for most people, but real world improvements can be illusive. Be aware if you set the cache in the 4.0-4.2 range, you will probably pull another 30W through the CPU when at maximal load. This does have an effect on your maximum CPU core temps. The cache overclock is one thing to knock down when trying for another tenth of CPU frequency or if your cooling comes up a little short in the hot Summer months.

4) I don't use HWMonitor on X99. Normally, I am not one to advocate for paid monitoring software, but AIDA64 has been a godsend on this system. Line graphs are far more useful than min/max values and it is rather flexible in what is tracked. Unlike some monitoring programs, number of cores is not an issue. You can try the free version with some restrictions to see if you like it.
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Ahh so that means if i'm going to use linux, then I should ease up on my overclock even though it's fine in windows?

that depends on whether the OC you are using in windows is unstable or inefficient in that it triggers error correction... so, if you know what a WHEA is (machine-check error), windows will loop a proc call if checksums do not match, until is is an Uncorrectable Error. This can mask an underlying instability that Linux will not tolerate. If your windows OC is really stable, it will be in Linux also.

Yep, my Linux OC is 4.4Ghz while I can run 4.5-4.6 if I boot windows.
 
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Yep, my Linux OC is 4.4Ghz while I can run 4.5-4.6 if I boot windows.

Oh cool you live really close! I'm from Elk grove. So if you run it at 4.6 in linux does it crash? Or only during initial installation like how mine wouldn't even boot live us?
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Yep, my Linux OC is 4.4Ghz while I can run 4.5-4.6 if I boot windows.

Oh cool you live really close! I'm from Elk grove. So if you run it at 4.6 in linux does it crash? Or only during initial installation like how mine wouldn't even boot live us?

Yes about 45 minutes away. If you're trying to install linux I'd drop your OC 200Mhz and see if it works there. I came from the other direction being that I run linux 24/7, only running Windows if absolutely necessary and then using a VM. My system does BOINC projects 24/7, with the occasional Web and email stuff, so any instability is not good. Been working with UN*X systems since the 90's.
 
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Yep, my Linux OC is 4.4Ghz while I can run 4.5-4.6 if I boot windows.

Oh cool you live really close! I'm from Elk grove. So if you run it at 4.6 in linux does it crash? Or only during initial installation like how mine wouldn't even boot live us?

Yes about 45 minutes away. If you're trying to install linux I'd drop your OC 200Mhz and see if it works there. I came from the other direction being that I run linux 24/7, only running Windows if absolutely necessary and then using a VM. My system does BOINC projects 24/7, with the occasional Web and email stuff, so any instability is not good. Been working with UN*X systems since the 90's.

Also if you didn't know, Linux will install a boot loader that will allow you to select your OS at boot time if you install it to your boot drive. Windows will overwrite the boot loader if you reinstall it afterwards.
 
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Theres a new Bios Version for the Rampage V Extreme. I know a lot of people have it here so just a friendly reminder thumb.gif
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I have a little problem. I already updated my bios.

After a short time, my 2 sticks on the right side just go away, while my system i running. i already swiched the sticks, tried the black ram-slots but the 2 right sticks just crash and i am unable to use them.
The system is running fine and without problems.
is my motherboard damaged or my cpu? is is OCCT stable for hours and memtest is running fine. but the right side carsh...

i disabled svid and underclocked my ram


edit with default bios and only changed to xmp, the system wont even boot


edit2 im confused.... 2 sticks are gone and i cant monitor them but... i still have the performence

is the memory bench ok? uncore is at 4000 and clock 4400. if i go higher with the ram speed i cant boot


edit3 if i reboot the pc i only have 8GB ram.To get the ram back, i have to pull out the 2 right sticks and put them back in. After that i have my ram back working

one more edit: if i let the pc running in idle for some minutes, the ram is running again. ***?
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