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I will be using 5960x or a 6900k (any opinion on which? I have already got the 5960x but can swap for 6900k within next week or so).

I guess my question regarding the motherboard was, would I be missing out on any new feature of the new gen board (Deluxe II) if I get the older gen R5E?

This is my first build and will be my first OC so do not want to go down the custom water loop route if possible. I would like a good OC so I am guessing 4.5 for the 5960x or 4.3 for the 6900k, I am thinking of the x61 for cooling, is it the best in its class? I had looked at the EK but I am already stretched on price so could not have it.

Many thanks!
since you're not looking at a custom loop it would be best to go with Broadwell-e 6900k because it produces less heat with the 14nm die and you will not need as much cooling unless you OC it like mad. Don't expect to be able to control the heat very well on a 5960x using an AIO.

Hitting 4.5GHz on 5960x may prove to be challenging without a custom loop, 4-4.2 would be easier.

The new motherboards from Asus have the cool RGB lighting on them as a major eye candy.
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post #19642 of 22164
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do you have a non-Pascal card? My 1080 did the same. TitanX did not need any modifications to load the kernel... but do DL the linux driver from NV. thumb.gif

Hello

Install Mint 18 using a compatible video card. Once done install the Pascal driver, shut down and replace the card with the 1070 or 1080.


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I will be using 5960x or a 6900k (any opinion on which? I have already got the 5960x but can swap for 6900k within next week or so).

I guess my question regarding the motherboard was, would I be missing out on any new feature of the new gen board (Deluxe II) if I get the older gen R5E?

This is my first build and will be my first OC so do not want to go down the custom water loop route if possible. I would like a good OC so I am guessing 4.5 for the 5960x or 4.3 for the 6900k, I am thinking of the x61 for cooling, is it the best in its class? I had looked at the EK but I am already stretched on price so could not have it.

Many thanks!

Take a look at the Swiftech H240-X or H240-X2 for a cooler, like the EK but less pricey. In terms of performance, EK and Swiftech are a step between asetek closed loops (the kraken is an asetek oem) and full custom loops. If you're in the US, you can get an H240X for $119.95 direct from swiftech, that's less than the kraken.
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Hi guys,

I have a question which worries me since I found out yesterday. Thing is, i am considering lapping my 5820k because the cpu seems to be too convex to make a good contact. Now before you dismiss and shut me off completely, hear me out.

I was using a nhd15 with clu for past 6 months. Temps were good, but not great. Around 70c for 4.4ghz at 1.225v. Yesterday I switched to a full custom loop and I noticed the CPU footprint from the clu on the cooler:

http://imgur.com/Q4BhOJy,22ZnALW

It just seems too small ?! I know it is supposed to be convex and not make full contact, but isnt this too much ? When I mounted the cpu block, I could actually wobble with it on top of the cpu. The base on the noctua and block are perfectly flat, i checked with a razor. While on the cpu I had around .5mm gaps at the edges of the ihs under the razor blade.
Edited by Xeq54 - 7/9/16 at 6:20am
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Hi guys,

I have a question which worries me since I found out yesterday. Thing is, i am considering lapping my 5820k because the cpu seems to be too concave to make a good contact. Now before you dismiss and shut me off completely, hear me out.

I was using a nhd15 with clu for past 6 months. Temps were good, but not great. Around 70c for 4.4ghz at 1.225v. Yesterday I switched to a full custom loop and I noticed the CPU footprint from the clu on the cooler:

http://imgur.com/Q4BhOJy,22ZnALW

It just seems too small ?! I know it is supposed to be concave and not make full contact, but isnt this too much ? When I mounted the cpu block, I could actually wobble with it on top of the cpu. The base on the noctua and block are perfectly flat, i checked with a razor. While on the cpu I had around .5mm gaps at the edges of the ihs under the razor blade.

the IHS should be convex not concave.... eg, a slight crown up.
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Yes, i meant convex
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Yes, i meant convex

it is convex for a reason... provides the correct tension while in the land socket. Lapping can/does result in a flat surface that will become concave with cooler mounting pressure on the socket and MB. End result: lapping a CPU IHS is more likely to result in lower thermal performance that better... this is because new gen CPUs have very flexible/thin PCBs which will bow concave in the socket. Unless the IHS is damaged in some way, lapping a current gen CPU IHS may not do what you expect. smile.gif

Make sure the CLU did not form an amalgam with the IHS or block face. If it did, you will need to polish (not lap) both surfaces.
Edited by Jpmboy - 7/9/16 at 9:30am
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since you're not looking at a custom loop it would be best to go with Broadwell-e 6900k because it produces less heat with the 14nm die and you will not need as much cooling unless you OC it like mad. Don't expect to be able to control the heat very well on a 5960x using an AIO.

Hitting 4.5GHz on 5960x may prove to be challenging without a custom loop, 4-4.2 would be easier.

The new motherboards from Asus have the cool RGB lighting on them as a major eye candy.

I had thought that it was the other way round, that the 5960x is the better choice if one was to overclock. Some of the main reviewers had also noted this:

"At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the Core i7-6900K is reasonably efficient at its stock frequency. Overclock it, though, and this changes quickly and drastically. Every 100MHz step up comes at the cost of a hefty core voltage increase. And it can’t be overclocked beyond 4.3GHz at all, no matter how much voltage you add.
Thus, the Core i7-6900K only makes sense if you're using software that scales perfectly with core count. It could be considered suitable for pure gaming workloads, as long as those games don’t just use a single thread.
But if you're an overclocker, the Core i7-5930K is a better alternative to the -6850K, and Intel's Core i7-5960X trumps the -6900K. At the same clock rates, Intel's Haswell-E generation is easier to cool.
"

Was it simply a case of error on early reviews or are they referring to overclocking using custom water loops here?

And other than the fancy RGB lights, are there any essential feature upgrade on the new gen boards? Because if not then the R5E seems very appealing as it is close in price to the Deluxe II (£50 difference).

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Take a look at the Swiftech H240-X or H240-X2 for a cooler, like the EK but less pricey. In terms of performance, EK and Swiftech are a step between asetek closed loops (the kraken is an asetek oem) and full custom loops. If you're in the US, you can get an H240X for $119.95 direct from swiftech, that's less than the kraken.

I have just had a look and here in the UK all of the resellers on Swiftech's site have no stocks whatsoever, seems hard to come by. In which case would the Krakan x61 be the next best thing?
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Hi guys,

I have a question which worries me since I found out yesterday. Thing is, i am considering lapping my 5820k because the cpu seems to be too convex to make a good contact. Now before you dismiss and shut me off completely, hear me out.

I was using a nhd15 with clu for past 6 months. Temps were good, but not great. Around 70c for 4.4ghz at 1.225v. Yesterday I switched to a full custom loop and I noticed the CPU footprint from the clu on the cooler:

http://imgur.com/Q4BhOJy,22ZnALW

It just seems too small ?! I know it is supposed to be convex and not make full contact, but isnt this too much ? When I mounted the cpu block, I could actually wobble with it on top of the cpu. The base on the noctua and block are perfectly flat, i checked with a razor. While on the cpu I had around .5mm gaps at the edges of the ihs under the razor blade.

Lapping might help, what temps are you seeing with your custom loop? Was the 70C running a stress program, and if so, what one?
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I pushed to 4.6 at 1.33v now. With combined tests such as Aida or realbench i am at around 72C. If I run a fpu focused test such as aida fpu only, it is hitting 89c.

It is better than on my noctua, it was not possible to cool the cpu during stress test at this frequency.

I have the ekwb evo block on cpu + mosfet block for mobo and two 280mm rads.I did make sure there are no air pockets in the loop.
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