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post #19651 of 22233
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Originally Posted by vaoqeRG View Post

I had thought that it was the other way round, that the 5960x is the better choice if one was to overclock. Some of the main reviewers had also noted this:

"At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the Core i7-6900K is reasonably efficient at its stock frequency. Overclock it, though, and this changes quickly and drastically. Every 100MHz step up comes at the cost of a hefty core voltage increase. And it can’t be overclocked beyond 4.3GHz at all, no matter how much voltage you add.
Thus, the Core i7-6900K only makes sense if you're using software that scales perfectly with core count. It could be considered suitable for pure gaming workloads, as long as those games don’t just use a single thread.
But if you're an overclocker, the Core i7-5930K is a better alternative to the -6850K, and Intel's Core i7-5960X trumps the -6900K. At the same clock rates, Intel's Haswell-E generation is easier to cool.
"

Was it simply a case of error on early reviews or are they referring to overclocking using custom water loops here?

And other than the fancy RGB lights, are there any essential feature upgrade on the new gen boards? Because if not then the R5E seems very appealing as it is close in price to the Deluxe II (£50 difference).
I have just had a look and here in the UK all of the resellers on Swiftech's site have no stocks whatsoever, seems hard to come by. In which case would the Krakan x61 be the next best thing?

the 6900K has an improved IPC vs the 5960X. Most 6900K's can hit 4.4... most 5960X's can hit 4.5, many run 4.7 24/7. The processors have the same core count. IMO, if you can find a 5960X that runs happy at 4.7 (it will be hot) go with that. The new boards have other features besides LEDs... intel PCH for all drives on the R5E-10 (no asmedia). U.2 (NVMe) drive connectors (very fast and enterprise-level performance). etc (2 LAN on th e10 vs 1 on the r5E). I like the straight Intel PCH (raid etc). High power on-board fan/pump headers. too many improvements to list...
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post #19652 of 22233
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Originally Posted by Artah View Post

since you're not looking at a custom loop it would be best to go with Broadwell-e 6900k because it produces less heat with the 14nm die and you will not need as much cooling unless you OC it like mad. Don't expect to be able to control the heat very well on a 5960x using an AIO.

Hitting 4.5GHz on 5960x may prove to be challenging without a custom loop, 4-4.2 would be easier.

The new motherboards from Asus have the cool RGB lighting on them as a major eye candy.

I can run 24/7 at 4.5ghz with my 5960x on a crappy Corsair H110i GT..

Haven't even tried 4.7 but at 1.3 I think I could run 24/7 fine with fans on high.
post #19653 of 22233
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Originally Posted by vaoqeRG View Post

I had thought that it was the other way round, that the 5960x is the better choice if one was to overclock. Some of the main reviewers had also noted this:

"At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the Core i7-6900K is reasonably efficient at its stock frequency. Overclock it, though, and this changes quickly and drastically. Every 100MHz step up comes at the cost of a hefty core voltage increase. And it can’t be overclocked beyond 4.3GHz at all, no matter how much voltage you add.
Thus, the Core i7-6900K only makes sense if you're using software that scales perfectly with core count. It could be considered suitable for pure gaming workloads, as long as those games don’t just use a single thread.
But if you're an overclocker, the Core i7-5930K is a better alternative to the -6850K, and Intel's Core i7-5960X trumps the -6900K. At the same clock rates, Intel's Haswell-E generation is easier to cool.
"


Was it simply a case of error on early reviews or are they referring to overclocking using custom water loops here?

And other than the fancy RGB lights, are there any essential feature upgrade on the new gen boards? Because if not then the R5E seems very appealing as it is close in price to the Deluxe II (£50 difference).
I have just had a look and here in the UK all of the resellers on Swiftech's site have no stocks whatsoever, seems hard to come by. In which case would the Krakan x61 be the next best thing?

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Originally Posted by st0necold View Post

I can run 24/7 at 4.5ghz with my 5960x on a crappy Corsair H110i GT..

Haven't even tried 4.7 but at 1.3 I think I could run 24/7 fine with fans on high.
This statement "Intel's Core i7-5960X trumps the -6900K" is extremely inaccurate an in fact 180 backwards. A 4.2GHz 6900K is equivalent to or higher than a 5960X 4.6GHz+ and still easier to cool. On the more extreme side a 6900K running at 4.4GHz will run the same or faster than a 5960x at 4.8GHz like Jpmboy mentioned on his response. If/when intel does the same thing to haswell-e on what they did with broadwell-e there would be a huge improvement.
Edited by Artah - 7/9/16 at 12:26pm
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I can run 24/7 at 4.5ghz with my 5960x on a crappy Corsair H110i GT..

Haven't even tried 4.7 but at 1.3 I think I could run 24/7 fine with fans on high.

The H110i GT isn't crappy cooler.. that one on pair with EK Predator 360.. cheers.gif
   
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The H110i GT isn't crappy cooler.. that one on pair with EK Predator 360.. cheers.gif

Exactly, the one thing that has stopped me moving to the EK 360 Kit, as well as the fact that it's ridiculously expensive for very little delta reduction. Just dust out the radiator and fans every few months and it's fine.
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The H110i GT isn't crappy cooler.. that one on pair with EK Predator 360.. cheers.gif
I agree, that's one of my favs on the AIO coolers if doing CPU only. If I was not doing custom loops that would definitely be one of my first choices.
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Exactly ^^ that cooler as Intake and 4 fan's and good ambient keep my 5820k under 80c even at 1.36v.. so the 5960x should be fine at 1.300v..

as Swiftech spam on people by forcing them to use Intake on Aio's.. people say swiftech beast aio..lol biggrin.gif
   
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Exactly ^^ that cooler as Intake and 4 fan's and good ambient keep my 5820k under 80c even at 1.36v.. so the 5960x should be fine at 1.300v..

as Swiftech spam on people by forcing them to use Intake on Aio's.. people say swiftech beast aio..lol biggrin.gif

You can get similar cooling performance out of it, but the swiftech kills it on noise levels.

listen for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8DxuUth7U&feature=youtu.be&t=11m23s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8DxuUth7U&feature=youtu.be&t=12m16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8DxuUth7U&feature=youtu.be&t=14m55s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8DxuUth7U&feature=youtu.be&t=16m04s

bottom line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8DxuUth7U&feature=youtu.be&t=18m19s

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I have just had a look and here in the UK all of the resellers on Swiftech's site have no stocks whatsoever, seems hard to come by. In which case would the Krakan x61 be the next best thing?

Either the kraken x61 or the h110i gt.
Edited by michael-ocn - 7/9/16 at 2:21pm
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post #19659 of 22233
What are your thoughts on the Predator 240 then.
I was looking to front mount one as an intake on a Enthoo Evolv so I didn't loose the bottom 3.5" mounts like a 280mm RAD will.
post #19660 of 22233
@Jpmboy I just leave HCI over night! and no problem.. what yo think this stable or GSAT should be ?



My gaming performance is really awesome now... no problem at all smile.gif

and I try the 3 Way sli on the Deluxe 8X,8X,8X



the benefit from the 3rd card was around 40% not more.. anyway 2 Ti's more than enough for my PG278Q wink.gif

now on this smile.gif

   
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