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^you have a lot of posts, but do you know how to read? Don't think so... Lol!

And you have lots of (sheetballs) claims. thumb.gif

Just by not answering, means you have no idea.
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Just for your last comment: I was hesitating between a z170 platform and a x99. x99 for Broadwell-e at launch..

But really, it is the first time that I will jump over a new gen: except for the 6950x, which is a great chip, but can't afford it... Not worth IMO to go from a 4.8GHz/1.32v stable 5820k to a 3-5% more IPC 6850k that will hardly make 4.5.

Not justifying lack in this one tongue.gif
you continue to refer to a 3-5% increase. I showed you a test with 11% gain. Here is another one where they show 8-10% average gains with 38 user benchmarks, the conclusion is 10% faster.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5960X/3605vs2580

You are confusing people here, should do a little more research than hwbot imho. The fact of the matter is the 6900k is better than the 5960x and cost about the same by about 10% according to some people that have actually tested it.

If I had a 5960x though I wouldn't jump to go upgrade.


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you continue to refer to a 3-5% increase. I showed you a test with 11% gain. Here is another one where they show 8-10% average gains with 38 user benchmarks, the conclusion is 10% faster.

I'd prefer seeing a professional study on the performance by an experienced overclocker under laboratory conditions than using UserBenchmark's numbers. Also 38 is too small a sample size to verify average performance gain.

I.e. same motherboard (BIOS), RAM, boot drive, OS, programs, ambient temperature controlled. What I've heard, is that the IPC is better on average, but the headroom is lower (smaller node).
Edited by Desolutional - 7/10/16 at 2:27pm
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you continue to refer to a 3-5% increase. I showed you a test with 11% gain. Here is another one where they show 8-10% average gains with 38 user benchmarks, the conclusion is 10% faster.

Hard to come to any IPC conclusions with such a spread of system configurations and clock speeds in one purely synthetic test suite.
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Hard to come to any IPC conclusions with such a spread of system configurations and clock speeds in one purely synthetic test suite.

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I'd prefer seeing a professional study on the performance by an experienced overclocker under laboratory conditions than using UserBenchmark's numbers. Also 38 is too small a sample size to verify average performance gain.

I.e. same motherboard (BIOS), RAM, boot drive, OS, programs, ambient temperature controlled. What I've heard, is that the IPC is better on average, but the headroom is lower (smaller node).
You're both right, need to get more chips out there for more tests and maybe infiltrate the haswell domination of hwbot so we don't go by myths and a very small number of tests. People need to decide for themselves what they are going to do with the limited number of benchmarks. We all should shutdown this conversation because it's getting out of hand. I'll actually stop responding anything about this particular part of the discussion so I'll start with myself.
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you continue to refer to a 3-5% increase. I showed you a test with 11% gain. Here is another one where they show 8-10% average gains with 38 user benchmarks, the conclusion is 10% faster.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5960X/3605vs2580

You are confusing people here, should do a little more research than hwbot imho. The fact of the matter is the 6900k is better than the 5960x and cost about the same by about 10% according to some people that have actually tested it.

If I had a 5960x though I wouldn't jump to go upgrade.



Yes I do, and you must be the only magician with a 15% increase: your broadwell-e IPC is better than Skylake! You must have got a very special sample!

Joke apart, how do you want B-e to be 10/15% higher IPC than H-e when Skylake is 8 to 10% better than Haswell?

Regarding your link, it is 9% higher perf for 7% higher clock... Do your math... 3 to 5% (optimistic)
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A bit mor users (143) 6800k vs 5820k. 3.4GHz. vs 3.3GHz (your source):

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6800K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5820K/3607vs2579

+3% clock speed, +5% perf... That's far from 10% IPC increase, maybe... 4%?
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Yes I do, and you must be the only magician with a 15% increase: your broadwell-e IPC is better than Skylake! You must have got a very special sample!

Joke apart, how do you want B-e to be 10/15% higher IPC than H-e when Skylake is 8 to 10% better than Haswell?

Regarding your link, it is 9% higher perf for 7% higher clock... Do your math... 3 to 5% (optimistic)
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5960X/3605vs2580
skylake huh what in a broadwell-e vs haswell-e comparison? You really should upgrade your motorcycle exhaust to at least a slip on if you don't want to do a full exhaust replacement. That will get you at least a 10-15% performance increase. Looks much cleaner too. Here take a look how much cooler it would be...

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Nice ride man!

Edit: I like the helmet too! wink.gif
Sold my 500CR for the ZX6-r... I miss the "bwwooooaaaapppp!!!!"" of the 2 strokes!!!
Edited by skmanu - 7/10/16 at 3:02pm
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Nice ride man!

Edit: I like the helmet too! wink.gif
Thanks. Let's drop the subject and wait for more data. I know 15% is stretching it a lot when probably only 1 person on the planet got the reading and probably misread it.

Edit: I downgraded from an R1 and slightly regret it.
Edited by Artah - 7/10/16 at 3:06pm
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