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Originally Posted by damarad21 View Post

Really? At 1,40v should burn !!! Sure it will be fried soon..
I think I saw 1.4v set for the gaming presets on R5E10 on BIOS 0601, I'll edit this if that is incorrect when I check today when I get home. I hope Asus didn't mean for us to use LN2 to cool it at a gaming preset for 10 core broadwell-e smile.gif
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I think I saw 1.4v set for the gaming presets on R5E10 on BIOS 0601, I'll edit this if that is incorrect when I check today when I get home. I hope Asus didn't mean for us to use LN2 to cool it at a gaming preset for 10 core broadwell-e smile.gif


People who test a ton of CPUs like SiliconLottery have said that they feel that 1.4v is max safe "24/7" voltage even on BW-E which is 14nm so slightly more sensitive to voltage iirc. So I highly doubt that its really "dangerous" per say; I mean yeah it will speedup the ticking clock of lifespan over time, just as ANY voltage and heat increase will do, but I doubt 1.4v will actually kill a chip.
 
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Ha ha ha !! Not seriously what is it the Intel official max vcore for theses processors.

Stock is the Intel max vcore for your processor. Anything beyond that is out of spec and out of warranty if you don't have a tuning plan.

Intel publishes VID ranges and absolute maximum ratings in their whitepapers, but it's a gross misrepresentation of the data to refer to such figures as recommendations for any part. VID figures are set per sample based on leakage and other factors, while the absolute maximum ratings are momentary never exceed ratings.

You can use the info presented to come to reasonable conclusions about what should be safe to use, but Intel won't rubber stamp any specific figures above stock.
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At the moment I have no plans for having more than 2 cards, so a Deluxe II would do me fine, it is just that the reduced potential for upgrade is what is bothering me. Following your reply I went ahead to pcpartpicker to see what others have done and there are hardly any 3 gpu builds on the Deluxe.

Would I be able to use 3 gpus if they occupied 2 slots on the Deluxe?

As for the which features I am looking for, and outwith onboard wifi, the number of PCIe slots for use by gpu is high on my list. Looking at the comparison list on the Asus site I see that the RVE does not come with Asus' 5-way optimization software which was a great thing for a first timer like myself. I can probably live without it. My earlier question was about specific Broadwell E features that old gen RVE will be missing in comparison to the Deluxe II.

RVE has an onboard wifi.
5-way optimisation, well, once you spend a bit of time with the board/system, you won't really have to deal with it.

3 cards can be used on the Deluxe at X16 - X8 - X8. Just stick to dual slot cards (reference or founders are your best option) on air. Fourth, near impossible without watercooling.

BIOS update will open up some of the BW-E features on olders X99 boards.
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tho most 2 slot cards can be easily fitted with a 1-slot IO shield once the waterblock route is chosen.

True. Watercooling should be the route for 3 or more cards.
post #19735 of 22289
Could someone explain how this was made possible?


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Could someone explain how this was made possible?


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Take more than a hundred samples and bin them.

CPU-Z is just a start.
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People who test a ton of CPUs like SiliconLottery have said that they feel that 1.4v is max safe "24/7" voltage even on BW-E which is 14nm so slightly more sensitive to voltage iirc. So I highly doubt that its really "dangerous" per say; I mean yeah it will speedup the ticking clock of lifespan over time, just as ANY voltage and heat increase will do, but I doubt 1.4v will actually kill a chip.
That's what I mean, I'm saying it's mostly safe but pushing it without having to use LN2. I didn't think that Asus would put out an overclocking presets that required LN2... Well anyway the preset on BIOS 0601 is 1.370v actually and cpu cache voltage override is 1.400v so I saw that wrong, not sure if that cache voltage is a safe one.
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the product spec sheet addresses VCCIN, official max is 1.98V after LLC. stay below 1.95V if you want to "baby" the CPU. wink.gif page 51.
core-i7-lga2011-3-datasheet-vol-1.pdf 795k .pdf file

IME, stay below 1.4V vcore and 1.3V cache.

I thought 1.98V included the stock Vdroop behaviour on the VCCIN rail? Placing it closer to 1.93V under load?
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I thought 1.98V included the stock Vdroop behaviour on the VCCIN rail? Placing it closer to 1.93V under load?

not 100% sure, but 1.98V is the VCCIN at load, and if you read carefully, also accounts for load-line overshoot "excursions". blinksmiley.gif
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