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post #19921 of 22159
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Originally Posted by nexxusty View Post

Ugh.

Concave IHS's and CLU don't mix.....

Almost no contact with my 5930k and my waterblock. Had to waste an entire tube to find that out.

CLU is way too expensive. 0.15g... highway robbery.

I have to lap this IHS. Badly. I had NO idea it was THIS bad. I'll start lapping tomorrow and show everyone.
how did the IHS become concave? they are shipped convex.
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post #19922 of 22159
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

how did the IHS become concave? they are shipped convex.

I'm not sure at all... this IHS is definitely concave though. I now understand why my waterblock didn't get the best temps... lol.

I'll be lapping it after my morning tea, I'll take some pics and show you how concave it is.... I used an an entire tube of CLU and I still only make half contact.
Edited by nexxusty - 7/25/16 at 9:20am
post #19923 of 22159
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

how did the IHS become concave? they are shipped convex.

A solid half of my Intel CPUs have depression in the center of the IHS, out of the box.
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post #19924 of 22159
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A solid half of my Intel CPUs have depression in the center of the IHS, out of the box.

Mine is exactly like this.

However I might be able to get 4.5ghz now without my hottest core at 10c higher than my lowest. This would also be why my package temp is always too high.

Here's hoping.
post #19925 of 22159
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A solid half of my Intel CPUs have depression in the center of the IHS, out of the box.
whoa - I just checked a 5960X and 6320 (since they are not in socket) and both have a slight crown (convex). Will check other going forward...
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post #19926 of 22159
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whoa - I just checked a 5960X and 6320 (since they are not in socket) and both have a slight crown (convex). Will check other going forward...

Ridiculous no?

You aren't crazy for thinking IHS's were convex my friend. SOME are.

The QC for IHS is crap at Intel. AMD too. I've never seen an IHS that didn't need lapping. Some are just better than others.

This is a lesson learned for me. I will be checking every IHS from now on. We'd all be pretty naive not to at this point it seems. Not really fair that we lose our warranty for fixing their mistakes....

The crap we have to deal with... lol.
post #19927 of 22159
Just checked my couple chips that arent in sockets at the momemnt.

5820k convex

6320 concave

5606 xeon convex

5606 xeon convex
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Just checked my couple chips that arent in sockets at the momemnt.

5820k convex

6320 concave

5606 xeon convex

5606 xeon convex

Ugh..... lol.
post #19929 of 22159
Probably caused by pressing the heated IHS onto the substrate and die and not controlling cooling or flexing too well.

I wouldn't expect it to be practical to have really tight controls on the IHS flatness unless they moved back to ceramic substrates (which they won't do for cost reasons) or refinished the IHS after it was attached (probably costly too).
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Probably caused by pressing the heated IHS onto the substrate and die and not controlling cooling or flexing too well.

I wouldn't expect it to be practical to have really tight controls on the IHS flatness unless they moved back to ceramic substrates (which they won't do for cost reasons) or refinished the IHS after it was attached (probably costly too).
Actually, the IHS should be slightly convex. Somewhere around here I have the Intel Thermal Solution technical spec sheet... redface.gif
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