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Originally Posted by sblantipodi View Post

hi all,
is there some videos that demonstrates the gaming difference between Haswell-E, Broadwell-E and Skylake while running at the same clock speed?

I would like to see some high end GPUs running at "decent" resolution, better if in SLI.

Would really like to know that as well!
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Would really like to know that as well!

it is going to depend on whether the game can use more than 2 or 4 threads/cores, whether it is DX12, is it a AAA game, a console port, etc. It's frankly a bad question... why would one downclock a 6700K to BWE speeds? Of course a 20 thread processor will do many times better than an 8 core at physics etc. Callsignvega just went thru this experience in the Titan XP thread.
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it is going to depend on whether the game can use more than 2 or 4 threads/cores, whether it is DX12, is it a AAA game, a console port, etc. It's frankly a bad question... why would one downclock a 6700K to BWE speeds? Of course a 20 thread processor will do many times better than an 8 core at physics etc. Callsignvega just went thru this experience in the Titan XP thread.

No One talked about downclocking the 6700k.
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No One talked about downclocking the 6700k.

"is there some videos that demonstrates the gaming difference between Haswell-E, Broadwell-E and Skylake while running at the same clock speed?"

They want to compare IPC, hence the need to downclock the 6700K... of course this all becomes irrelevant with DX 12 and Vulkan... when they eventually come in true multithreaded form. Ideally with systems this high end you'll be either wanting: high framerates at 1080p/1440p (CPU limits max framerate, game dependent) or 60fps at 1440p/4K (more GPU based - assuming 60fps is the target). I always prefer to stay on the side of high resolution myself, but this could be quite important for users of 120Hz and 144Hz monitors.

Of course I use my system for HEVC encoding so the choice of 6700K is moot for me, and also the fact that DX 12 will scale up to 6 cores. But only time will tell.

Anyway, as for the OP's question, I believe 4GHz or higher would be a guaranteed frequency for all chips on a decent Air or CLC.
Edited by Desolutional - 8/23/16 at 2:27am
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There is a video comparing 6700k to 5960x and 5820k in several games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwwaVGUFtk

tldr 6700k is faster in most games per clock but this will change in the future where games will use more than 4 cores thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by unreality View Post

There is a video comparing 6700k to 5960x and 5820k in several games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwwaVGUFtk

tldr 6700k is faster in most games per clock but this will change in the future where games will use more than 4 cores thumb.gif

https://youtu.be/pBqXgd5UDLs
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So basically what we're learning here is that Haswell-E, and Skylake the performance of these CPU archs is practically identical in gaming.
Which is to be expected considering the fact that Intel hasn't really improved anything in years, because AMD flopped hard, no competition, and Intel just keeps dye shrinking things and adding better IGPUs to the consumer line CPUs.
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So basically what we're learning here is that Haswell-E, and Skylake the performance of these CPU archs is practically identical in gaming.
Which is to be expected considering the fact that Intel hasn't really improved anything in years, because AMD flopped hard, no competition, and Intel just keeps dye shrinking things and adding better IGPUs to the consumer line CPUs.

rolleyes.gif

Intel isn't designing CPU's for only gaming !
Beside gaming, Haswell-E and Brodwall-E can handle mulltithreaded applications that Skylake won't perform the same.

Honestly, since you have a skylake, HW-E or BW-E, in gaming, I don't see how we could see the diferences.
They are all good.

But for the next future, Minimum 6-Cores will be an advantage in games
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rolleyes.gif

Intel isn't designing CPU's for only gaming !
Beside gaming, Haswell-E and Brodwall-E can handle mulltithreaded applications that Skylake won't perform the same.

Honestly, since you have a skylake, HW-E or BW-E, in gaming, I don't see how we could see the diferences.
They are all good.

But for the next future, Minimum 6-Cores will be an advantage in games
Lets be honest here multicoring won't really matter in future games that much. DX12 doesn't really do much, and developers have to comply with multicore.
We've had quadcores and better for more than 8 years now, and developers still don't code games with multicore support that utilizes more than 2 or 3 cores consistently.

We now have easily accessible hexcores 12 threads, and still game development companies aren't accounting for it, and the most popular gaming CPUs remain the i5 because no one who games really needs anything more than 4 cores 4 threads.

Blame the consoles and Blame the developers, because the access to multicore performance has been here for a very long time at this point, and next to no games on the market even care beyond 3~4cores.

"DX12 will change this!"
DX12 arrives and is utiltized and has minor performance gains based on API improvements, and not CPU performances.
This issue lies in the hands of developers, not the technology.
Same reason we've had SLI/Crossfire for more than 10 years, and still the industry shirks and ignores it.
Just because the hardware industry provides something to the software industry, doesn't mean the software side is going to eat it up instantly as best it can.

Ever hear the phrase "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."?
"You can give a software dev SLI and 8 threads, but you can't make them code for it."

Would love to see this change in the figure but since the latest developments of the gaming industry and game popularity is aiming towards the budget range cards, EG RX480, GTX 1060, and the most popular games the market hitting over 90FPS maxed out on said cards, plus the factor of Consoles still holding back PC games.... I don't see a shift in the market anytime soon.
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Well, you also got to consider that high end PC gaming is still a very niche market segment. Who in their right mind going to waste valuable time and money coding for such?

As the saying goes, "Code for the lowest common denominator." Businesses are not doing it to push boundaries. It is all about getting money.
 
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