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Originally Posted by ottoore View Post

I watched the video. Which ones then?

It's up to you !

Sadly there are some games where just one core is being used (Starcraft II)... But there are many others as you can see in the video where 12-16 threads are been used.. If you pay attention there is a point where 6700K is loaded all cores 100% and its not able to keep GPU at 99% while 5960X is balancing happily the load in all cores.(video/ min 2:16)

The point is: what is your budget? You'll play and work extremely well with all CPUS. 2011-3 is more future proof. If your plan is keep your computer for a long time go for 2011-3, but if you will change your computer in <2 years go for 6700K.

And, well as you seen in the video, there are more games using more than 4 cores than people thought, although 4 cores are currently enough to play in best conditions.

Future is coming fast. AMD Zen is almost here. Next year cores will make a difference ...
Edited by damarad21 - 8/26/16 at 10:24am
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Aren't games tending to be more SMP/SMT oriented because they're being primarily developed for the modern 8-core CPU's found in PS4's and XBones?
I read about a game being specifically developed to utilize 5 cores a couple of years ago to take advantage of the multi-core architecture of PS4's and XBones.
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Aren't games tending to be more SMP/SMT oriented because they're being primarily developed for the modern 8-core CPU's found in PS4's and XBones?
I read about a game being specifically developed to utilize 5 cores a couple of years ago to take advantage of the multi-core architecture of PS4's and XBones.

They absolutely are.

However, most being ports.... even with the consoles having x86 architecture, still doesn't help.

Games like The Witcher 3 and Rise of the Tomb Raider are great examples of multiplatform games that are NOT just ports on PC. They're ports... but with some real polish on them.

Or they were designed on PC then ported to consoles. The reverse of this is how we get crap ports of good games.
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Originally Posted by damarad21 View Post

It's up to you !

Sadly there are some games where just one core is being used (Starcraft II)... But there are many others as you can see in the video where 12-16 threads are been used.. If you pay attention there is a point where 6700K is loaded all cores 100% and its not able to keep GPU at 99% while 5960X is balancing happily the load in all cores.(video/ min 2:16)

I think you might be right but the usage of a different number of cores shouldn't be more noticeable? We can see balanced load but not a big difference in term of fps that should be generated if more core were used.
I think we need to enable cores one by one to prove it.
Edited by ottoore - 8/26/16 at 12:45pm
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I think you might be right but the usage of a different number of cores shouldn't be more noticeable? We can see balanced load but not a big difference in term of fps that should be generated if more core were used.
I think we need to enable cores one by one to prove it.

More balanced load is much better than threads being pegged. Remember, HT is still not a substitute for more cores, it just a means of being more effective at scheduling workloads.

A 4770K with 4 threads being pegged will underperform vs say a 5820K with the same amount of threads being pegged, as you are now only using 4 cores out of the 6. Scale that up to CPU demanding games such as battlefront when running cards that can push a TON of FPS through even at 1440P or even 4K, means you really want at least a 6/8 core, especially of you record, or stream, or have any other background tasks.

It's really nice to be able to encode footage while processing bg tasks or even gaming with 0 issues. But I can say a 6950X is still not enough to stream 1440P 60FPS to YT @ 20K bitrate in BF4 lol...
Edited by cookiesowns - 8/26/16 at 2:48pm
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I think you might be right but the usage of a different number of cores shouldn't be more noticeable? We can see balanced load but not a big difference in term of fps that should be generated if more core were used.
I think we need to enable cores one by one to prove it.

See, minimum FPS... Anyway, they are all good processors and more than enough to play. Under my point of view we would see more diferences testing with a powerful SLI/CF..
Edited by damarad21 - 8/26/16 at 4:19pm
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See, minimum FPS... Anyway, they are all food processors and more than enough to play. Under my point of view we would see more diferences testing with a powerful SLI/CF..

you do/should at higher resolutions and in scenes with a very heavy post-processing loads.
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It's really nice to be able to encode footage while processing bg tasks or even gaming with 0 issues. But I can say a 6950X is still not enough to stream 1440P 60FPS to YT @ 20K bitrate in BF4 lol...
There are some "cheap" encoding cards around, cheaper than buying another rig just for the encoding/streaming biggrin.gif
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There are some "cheap" encoding cards around, cheaper than buying another rig just for the encoding/streaming biggrin.gif

Can those cards capture 1440P @ 165Hz? Most of those are EXTREMELY expensive. Otherwise you have to do weird tricks like capturing OBS window on 2ndmonitor using capture card, etc.
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There is a video comparing 6700k to 5960x and 5820k in several games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwwaVGUFtk


tldr 6700k is faster in most games per clock but this will change in the future where games will use more than 4 cores thumb.gif

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There is a video comparing 6700k to 5960x and 5820k in several games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwwaVGUFtk

tldr 6700k is faster in most games per clock but this will change in the future where games will use more than 4 cores thumb.gif
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There is a video comparing 6700k to 5960x and 5820k in several games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwwaVGUFtk

tldr 6700k is faster in most games per clock but this will change in the future where games will use more than 4 cores thumb.gif

I noticed in the videos that the CPU usage 2x higher on the 6700 than the 5960x. Wouldn't that explain the performance difference? Its like the 5960x is just sitting around waiting for something to do.
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