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Damn, i missed those messages
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Originally Posted by michael-ocn View Post

Probably not. If the prev owner had the voltage right for 4.4, you'll probably need at least 1.38 for 4.5, which is probably not gonna happen.
ok thanks smile.gif
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Originally Posted by GRABibus View Post

It is quite impossible to answer to your questions.
Of course, the overclock potential of the chip itself is important, but the overall potential dépends also on mobo, OS, etc.....and also the Cooling.

What Was the the ROG of the saler ?

What do you mean by rog?
The mobo will be a rampage 5 extreme, the cooler a kraken x61 and the os windows 10
I have a corsair hx1200i for my 980ti hof sli and the cpu.
The seller has no idea of the oc potential, just that the previous owner could hold 4.4 at 1.3
Also doesn't know the factory, he's gonna check tonight.
Edited by zipeldiablo - 8/31/16 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by zipeldiablo View Post

Damn, i missed those messages
ok thanks smile.gif
What do you mean by rog?
The mobo will be a rampage 5 extreme, the cooler a kraken x61 and the os windows 10
I have a corsair hx1200i for my 980ti hof sli and the cpu.
The seller has no idea of the oc potential, just that the previous owner could hold 4.4 at 1.3
Also doesn't know the factory, he's gonna check tonight.

I meant rig, not ROG, f..... iPhone lol

You Will need High end Water Cooling...
And more Than 1,35vcore 24/7 is really not advised.
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Really? I gained 400MB/s RAM speeds by going from 3200 up to 3333. The RAM is great. I'm running 14-14-14-24-2T @ 3333. It seems like I'm not working it to full potential if I can run it at that speed with such tight timings. I'm still only operating at 1.38v I find it hard to believe that upping the frequency to 3733 or 3866 would offer diminishing returns. I have Quad channel RAM and I want to squeeze as much out of it as I can.

He's dead wrong. 3200mhz with tight timings is the best you're getting for HW-E. 2666mhz is a joke for gaming. Enjoy crap frametimes...

See if you can run 3200mhz 14-14-14-30-1T. It will be faster for sure. Your TRAS is too low at 24 even if you don't try for 1T. Set it to 30. That's the exact number it should be set to (14+14+2=30).
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He's dead wrong. 3200mhz with tight timings is the best you're getting for HW-E. 2666mhz is a joke for gaming. Enjoy crap frametimes...

Coooooool, nice info with no evidence. Frametimes suffer when placed under maxed out (CPU) utilisation. This occurs with either: a) a poor game engine, or b) a DX 11 single threaded application maxing out one thread.
Fixed by: a) Vulkan, b) DX 12
If you want to prove me wrong, by all means do so, but be sure to make sure the results are recent and tested under standard conditions with only the memory frequency being changed. Have fun, smile.gif


S: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198894-raming-speed-does-boosting-ddr4-to-3200mhz-improve-overall-performance

Honestly, anything above 2133MHz JEDEC spec is perfectly fine for gaming at the present, some users are still stuck on DDR3 with its lower overall performance and gaming is still OK on that. Games will always struggle with high framerates and balancing frametimes because of the exponential increase in difficulty in rendering as you push more frames out. Frametimes are balanced with a framerate lock at a stable framerate, or by using GSync or Freesync. Framerate is optimised by using a better engine... like Frostbite or potentially UE4. DX 12 and Vulkan are just the start. Vulkan is the better choice for compatibility at this point in time - Android N will be using Vulkan as a backend, in fact relying on it.

As for frequencies, I'd stick to 3200MHz for HW-E at strap 100, or if not possible, 2666 or 2400. 2133 is easily surpassed with a boost in voltage.
Edited by Desolutional - 8/31/16 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by nexxusty View Post

He's dead wrong. 3200mhz with tight timings is the best you're getting for HW-E. 2666mhz is a joke for gaming. Enjoy crap frametimes...

See if you can run 3200mhz 14-14-14-30-1T. It will be faster for sure. Your TRAS is too low at 24 even if you don't try for 1T. Set it to 30. That's the exact number it should be set to (14+14+2=30).
Wrong math, tRAS = CL + tRCD + tRTP, not CR wink.gif
And on this platform, you can go 14-14-14-14-1T if you want, it's just that the real number tRAS won't be displayed but the motherboard will (should, Asus does) set it correctly for you (like on Skylake were you don't have access to it, as it does it right for you).
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Hi!

Seems like increasing VCCIO from 0.960V to 1.040 has greatly improved my core voltage. From needing 1,3V to 1.267V. It at least seems stable. Time will show.

What are you guys running your VCCIO at, could I lower it further to gain more vcore decreasement?
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Stock VCCIO is 1.05v, isn't it? thinking.gif
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2666mhz is a joke for gaming. Enjoy crap frametimes...

You can get decent frametimes in the overwhelming majority of games with worse than DDR4-2667.
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Stock VCCIO is 1.05v, isn't it? thinking.gif

Ya. VCCIO should mainly help the IMC and potentially cache.
post #20280 of 22233
So it's not odd that I was getting bad overclocks before with that kind of VCCIO?

I could test 4500 at 1.180 before I updated the bios, I thought it had degraded, seems like I was a noob instead. tongue.gif
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