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Guys,I'm unable boot up with anything above 36x at cache,tried several settings,but still same? Not sure why I'm not able to boot up with higher cache

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This board doesn't have an OC socket if I'm not wrong, so it's not surprising.wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Kimir View Post

This board doesn't have an OC socket if I'm not wrong, so it's not surprising.wink.gif

Ohh that's why,I bought this board due the ECC and Xeon support

Looks like I will need different board for next build,this board will go to my render node with E5 2673 v3

Thanks there for quick reply

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I'm not even surprised, I had a similar experience with the Noctua NH-D14 SE 2011 compared to the original Corsair H100i with my 3930K (fractal rig in my sig), prior to switching full custom loop.
Similar observation here.. the NH-D14 can keep pace with many AIOs especially given good case airflow. thumb.gif
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Hi guys! Sorry for the little question, what is the best setting for "DRAM Power Phase Control" in BIOS?

-Standard
-Optimized
-Extreme

For a light OC (2666Mhz 13-14-14 32 1T 1,25v) on a Asus X99-S?

I want to preserve temperature and power on DRAM VRM, I recently switched from Standard (default option) to Optimized, but I don't know if this setting is better. Thanks! smile.gif

P.S. Both settings are stable under HCI Memtest (1400% coverage).
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Hi guys! Sorry for the little question, what is the best setting for "DRAM Power Phase Control" in BIOS?

-Standard
-Optimized
-Extreme

For a light OC (2666Mhz 13-14-14 32 1T 1,25v) on a Asus X99-S?

I want to preserve temperature and power on DRAM VRM, I recently switched from Standard (default option) to Optimized, but I don't know if this setting is better. Thanks! smile.gif

P.S. Both settings are stable under HCI Memtest (1400% coverage).
optimized.
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I always set phases to maximum. There is an argument for optimized or auto on the CPU, but memory uses so little power in the first place that the energy saving is meaningless...not that there is likely to be an issue with optimized, but I like to rule out any variables ahead of time, if possible.
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optimized.
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I always set phases to maximum. There is an argument for optimized or auto on the CPU, but memory uses so little power in the first place that the energy saving is meaningless...not that there is likely to be an issue with optimized, but I like to rule out any variables ahead of time, if possible.

Thanks guys!

Anyway, I think to go with optimized setting because I don't have any difference in stability smile.gif
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I always set phases to maximum. There is an argument for optimized or auto on the CPU, but memory uses so little power in the first place that the energy saving is meaningless...not that there is likely to be an issue with optimized, but I like to rule out any variables ahead of time, if possible.

Energy Saving? Lol.

Anyone concerned with this shouldn't be posting here.

This isn't "Energysaving.net"....
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Wrong math, tRAS = CL + tRCD + tRTP, not CR wink.gif
And on this platform, you can go 14-14-14-14-1T if you want, it's just that the real number tRAS won't be displayed but the motherboard will (should, Asus does) set it correctly for you (like on Skylake were you don't have access to it, as it does it right for you).

I completely disagree with your formula. That would put my TRAS at 43. Which is laughable.

So if I were you I'd not contiune telling anyone that formula. At least the formula I use makes SOME sense. This would put my TRAS down from 36 to 31.

Furthermore, seems to me you don't know the function of TRAS as 14-14-14-14 is not going to work. Neither will 43.

TRAS cannot be set to low or too high. I had TRAS at 16 and there was no difference in any benchmark between 16 and stock. Meaning it said 16 but it was NOT set that low. No way.

I'm going to need some proof of what your saying. Goes against everything I know.... as well as many others.
Edited by nexxusty - 9/3/16 at 8:26pm
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I completely disagree with your formula. That would put my TRAS at 43. Which is laughable.

It's not his formula, it the minimum tRAS window you can expect to be viable for worst case operations to complete before allowing the row to be precharged again. Allowing precharge too soon can potentially cause data loss, or reduce performance if a series of burst accesses is interrupted.

The absolute minimum value that can work is often quite a bit lower, while there really isn't a maximum, outside of refresh considerations, as far as I've seen.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3851/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-sdram-memory-but-were-afraid-to-ask/3
Page 433-434: https://books.google.com/books?id=G-D6KFwnVsgC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
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So if I were you I'd not contiune telling anyone that formula.

The formula in question is backed up by actual DRAM timing considerations and is usually how default tRAS values are calculated for SPD timings. It's a good place to start, and almost always results in a stable tRAS setting without compromising much performance.

You can often tweak it down (sometimes as far as whatever minimum threshold, based on a key few immutable considerations, the memory controller allows), but you should test carefully for potential instability and make sure lower values are actually improving overall memory performance.
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