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should be slot 2 to not interfere but you'll have to check the manual to be sure
post #2152 of 3119
Hi guys

I have problems after the installation of 950 pro

if my sli is + 950 pro + sound card installed, boot the computer normally, but I have a black screen after windows has loaded

without sound card I have a normal desktop
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Hi guys

I have problems after the installation of 950 pro

if my sli is + 950 pro + sound card installed, boot the computer normally, but I have a black screen after windows has loaded

without sound card I have a normal desktop

Can you go into the bios and get screenshots of the board explorer. Then upload those pictures showing what pci lanes are assigned.
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card1 x16
card2 x16
950pro x4
soundcard x1
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card1 x16
card2 x16
950pro x4
soundcard x1

Interesting, can you get the pc to boot into safe mode?

If it boots into safe mode but it wont boot into the operating system, you might need to uninstall the drivers for the sound card from the device manager (which you can do in safe mode) and if it boots into windows after that with no issues you may just need to manually install the device driver without the full on audio suite.

Any particular reason why using the card and not the onboard audio?
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I try soon

sbz makes a better sound
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Which ram is best for the X99A Xpower board and why? I am debating between 2666 and 3000 (4x 8gb). Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks.

Not all of the Haswell E chips will be able to do 3000 MHz.

It will depend on:
  • How lucky you are with the silicon lottery on the MCH of your CPU
  • The motherboard's ability to support said clocks
  • Whether or not you bought the RAM that can support those clocks

Personally, I prefer G.Skill as a brand, but their RAM is often binned very tightly. The best value is to buy the Trident, but get the tighter timing variant at any given speed. Absolute top RAM is extremely expensive and only a handful of MCHs will ever be able to run it.

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Question. Which PCIe slot would be best to install a sound card if I am running 2x SLI (slots 1 and 4) so that it would not interfere with the M.2 an the graphic cards?

Note: using 5930k

Thanks

Assuming the picture is correct for your board (they vary by board), then slots 1, 4, and the M.2 slot should allow x16, x16, and x4 on the SSD.


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card1 x16
card2 x16
950pro x4
soundcard x1

Can you get it to boot in Linux? Try a USB bootable distro. If you cannot get it to boot in both Windows and Linux, you may have a bad sound card. If it is only Windows, then it is likely a Windows related issue.

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Ah ok. Because I had a convo regarding usb 3.0 stuff and VIA not to long ago too. Just keeping my fingers crossed that slot 3 works as intended. I really dont want to pull another motherboard out again. I should know by Tuesday or Wednesday. All I wanted to do was get this system working properly so I can get my cpu oc'ed properly abd then work on other things. And its been one issue after another since November. Im sure this isnt anything and will be fine once I get the second card in slot 3. I did eventually want to get the Samsung 950 M.2 but I wanted to get my two cards running at x16 first.

If it really doesn't work out, 2 boards to try might be:

  • Asrock X99 OC Formula 3.1
  • Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion (4 DIMMs though)


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Originally Posted by Cyb3r View Post

if you can stay away from the killer nic's they're a pos to put it nicely even their regular driver has been causing issues for me so i'm straight reverting to installing my intel nic that i had laying around from another build that had it's network port busted (notorious realtek bug on that board and a 20$ card fixed it XD)

honestly when paying 420$+ for a board you shouldn't need to have to deal with the garbage that's killer networks


Yeah it is one of my annoyances right now with MSI boards. I think that MSI right now has some of the top board I've seen, but they have their share of flaws too.

I've played with enough MSI boards now that I think that there are
  • Overuse of the Killer LAN. I very much prefer Intel NICs, as they seem to be the top in terms of reliability (even if their wireless is less than ideal). I'm glad that the newer XPower boards use an Intel LAN.
  • Fan control is behind the competition (Asus have both PWM and voltage on the same fan pins) - MSI has this bizarre combination of PWM for the 2 CPU fans, then voltage only for the Sys fans, then, manual-only control for the OPT fans; these fan headers should be near the edge of the board ideally (sometimes they are in between PCI-E slots, which makes no sense)
  • Layout could be better - PCI-E slot configuration as has discussed and sometimes the extra power supply for the motherboard as well (should be ideally at the end and ideally a SATA power - this has since been fixed in the X99A XPower).
  • Also on the note of layout, spacing between CPU and RAM, versus the first PCI-E slot needs to be increased for GPUs and for top end CPU coolers.
  • There is also a "9C" USB error that seems to plague many MSI boards. Not sure why, but it's been common since X79.

I am not a fan of the fact that MSI has included wi-fi on these boards. They seem to have resolved that issue with Z170, as they no longer have wi-fi. That is good for me, as I prefer wired internet and wi-fi is a waste. I'd rather have more USB ports (I use a lot of USB sticks).

AS I said, I think MSI has some solid boards and arguably even the top boards, but there's definitely room for improvement.
Edited by CrazyElf - 2/3/16 at 5:28pm
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post #2158 of 3119
i agree crazyelf their layout on mobo's is a joke sorry i should not need to mod my board to fit a g1 gaming GTX 980ti (slightly higher topcover)

or certain slots not fitting extra pci cards due to msi being fancy and putting covers over things that don't need it (cough audiocodec area on the X99 gaming 9 ack)

and then the use off killer nic on 400-600$ boards that has been proven on pretty much every forum to cause issues still overall they're the least ****ty atm sadly frown.gif
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You make it sound like that was not referenced previously in any of my posts, and also the manual does not explain or tell you to anticipate not being able to use open pci slots for devices or having it randomly assign an occupied slot and the one next to it that's not occupied pci lanes causing a device to lose lanes.


It also shows every configuration possible with the motherboard assuming that you're going to by default shove the first and most powerful graphics card in slot 1 and NEVER use slot 3. It encourages you to put something into 5 at the cost of reducing the speed of an m2 (if you choose to go that route.)

Sorry mate, wasn't refering to you specifically, hence the lack of a quote in my post...

You are exactly right, the setup can cause a lot of confusion and annoyance. To my knowledge, this is the same for all manufacturers, the only difference being where the different slots are placed, but nevertheless extremely annoying.

The ideal thing would be to allow the user to manually choose how many lanes should be allocated to each slot. As a alternative, they should have implemented a similar method as they have on the M.2 slot, where you can choose whether it should get the full 4x PCIe lanes, or if you want to run it over the PCH (2x PCIe 2.0). This whole PCIe circus is extremely weird, and extremely frustrating. While I love the fact that you can use 4x/8x/16x cards in a 1x slot, the layouts typically never fit each user perfectly.

I chose my MPower board partly due to the fact that the two 16x slots were spaced the way that they are, as I have a WC setup. I have very limited space in my case, so most other configurations would just not work in my case.
post #2160 of 3119
To be honest expecting X99 to be right when it's based on haswell which had an awful chipset in terms of featurers MB OEM's were putting in compared to available resources.

Skylake-E will hopefully be a much better chipset with, hopefully the same 20 lane PCI-E 3.0 PCH that's in Skylake (or more maybe intel? smile.gif)

Then there'll be plenty of lanes on the PCH for M.2 SSD's, USB 3.1, 3.0, SATA and anything else without affecting GPU config.

...of course that doesn't help the current crop of X99 users
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