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Originally Posted by Methodical View Post

Which ram is best for the X99A Xpower board and why? I am debating between 2666 and 3000 (4x 8gb). Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks.

If the price premium is small you could go for a 3200MHz 16-16-16 1.35v kit like Ripjaws 4 or Ripjaws 5 16GB(4x4GB obv).

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Originally Posted by Menno View Post

After 2 months with the x99s sli krait. I have to say this board or the bios is a bit buggy with overclocking. Failed overclocks with a reset to default values and then applying the stable overclock profile for exemple results again in a "failed overclock" no matter the settings. Clearing CMOS then let it boot into Windows and then reboot again applying the stable overclock profile it works again. Oh well I'll settle for 4.375 GHz with 1.275V with my i7-5820k. Not the best overclocker. For 4.5GHz I hit a wall and even 1.3v isnt enough. Corsair Dominators 32GB 2800MHz C16 is running on 3000MHz 15-15-15-35-1T though. SA on 1.15, Vin on 1.920. Ring voltage on 1.15, VCCIO on 1.25 and ram on 1.36V with Ring speed on 3500MHz. All on 125.03 strap Seems ok right? All on water with load topping around 60-67c depending on the stress.

You could try lowering some values. Sometimes more is not better with X99. Also you could try Ring cache@3300 instead of 3500Mhz. Might help a bit.

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Originally Posted by JarleH View Post

I am a OC noob, but I know with 3000mhz you need bclk set to 125 mhz, which is known to make problems. 2666mhz is the highest you can go without changing bclk to higher then 100 mhz.

Don't forget 3200MHz works too. thumb.gif
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post #2172 of 3145
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Question: Can an unstable overclock cause issues with time keeping/clocks on a system?
While my 4Ghz @ +0.20V was fine stress testing it gave me headaches trying to get it working with 3D Mark Firestrike as it kept reporting an invalid result due to time mismatch since 3D Mark compares time from 3 sources...doesn't give any details on what the mismatch actually is though.

That is very odd and I have never seen that happen before. I will tell you this, my clock on Windows would not sync properly once when overclocking the CPU and hitting my max OC. I had to reboot. The time settings were never right after that. Even when I selected the correct timezone, the time was wrong and Id have to manually set the time. But I have never had 3DMark tell me it could not verify a run due to mismatching times. Are you using a non-beta driver version?
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Originally Posted by om1kron View Post

I am a firm believer that the manual was drafted for bios 1.0 which throws those lane switches and assignments right out of the window when flashed to 1.1 and even different when flashed to 1.2. I almost want to try a beta bios to see if that helps with the lane assignments but I have no idea how to flash back a version. The motherboard prevented me from reverting back to 1.1 after installing 1.2.

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What else is plugged into your system? sata drives and what ports do you have the sata drives in? Don't sata drives share pci lanes? I know if you plug anything into the 5th slot period you're going to have a bad time. If your sata drives are plugged into the sata ports that get disabled when running an m2, then I imagine you're running into the issue with lane 5 if anything is plugged into the sata ports. Try disconnecting all of your hard drives and see what the bios says with only your memory and cards added in.

You could be right about the Switch being relevant (or documented to act a certain way) from previous BIOS versions. I just dont know and Im not ready to flash an earlier BIOS yet.

So, I have my SSD and my HDD plugged into the SATA ports. I believe they are port 4 and 5. I also thought that only the SATA ports that are part of the SATA Express hookups were supposed to affect, or trigger, the switch. I just dont know. Now I have a previous issue that has returned and I really need to know from anyone running multi-gpu set up on any of the X99 SLI (and variants) about this issue

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This isnt a huge deal, but my Master GPU is reading as GPU2 and my slave card is registering as GPU1. This is with the cards both on x16 in slots 1 and 3. I dont think this will cause performance issues but...I just ran Killing Floor 2 and I noticed that my master GPU is hovering around 1% usage (sometimes its at 0) and at times my slave card (GPU1) is spiking to 100% and it also seems to be handling more of the workload than my master card. Im just wondering if anyone that owns one of these boards or a variant, that also has crossfire, has seen this before.
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Originally Posted by DMatthewStewart View Post

That is very odd and I have never seen that happen before. I will tell you this, my clock on Windows would not sync properly once when overclocking the CPU and hitting my max OC. I had to reboot. The time settings were never right after that. Even when I selected the correct timezone, the time was wrong and Id have to manually set the time. But I have never had 3DMark tell me it could not verify a run due to mismatching times. Are you using a non-beta driver version?

No I only ever use WHQL drivers (or hotfix if i really need to) and it wasnt a driver related error
System info didnt record the max turbo speed or RAM amount either though which was odd too.
Oh well
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No I only ever use WHQL drivers (or hotfix if i really need to) and it wasnt a driver related error
System info didnt record the max turbo speed or RAM amount either though which was odd too.
Oh well

Do you mean 3Dmark didnt read the system info correctly? Or Windows itself didnt read the system info correctly? If its 3DMark then that is pretty common. Especially on RAM freq/speed
post #2176 of 3145
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Do you mean 3Dmark didnt read the system info correctly? Or Windows itself didnt read the system info correctly? If its 3DMark then that is pretty common. Especially on RAM freq/speed

3D mark didnt, its systeminfo programme runs throughout the benchmark and may crash
except it didnt record it every time...and the RAM is only 2400mhz...was weird

then again when i reverted to stock it logged max turbo as 3300 -.-

Sigh.
post #2177 of 3145
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Originally Posted by bleets View Post

3D mark didnt, its systeminfo programme runs throughout the benchmark and may crash
except it didnt record it every time...and the RAM is only 2400mhz...was weird

then again when i reverted to stock it logged max turbo as 3300 -.-

Sigh.

I dont get too worried about 3DMark's sysinfo readings. To date its misread something on almost every system Ive run 3DMark on. As long as CPUID reads correctly and Afterburner reads my gpus correctly then I dont worry. 3DMark used to read my dominator gt ram at 600mhz on each stick and on this system it reads 1866mhz when Im at stock 2133mhz and it reads 2133 when Im running 2400mhz.
post #2178 of 3145
Why does my bclk keep changing (x99a gaming 7), I have all C-States/EIST /power saving features off I think. I'm shooting for 4.7ghz @ 1.4 volts yet the bclck keeps jumping to 102.4 something...
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Hey guys, so I can't pass a linx test unless stock.. Has to be some weird new bios settings, can someone show me all their settings for their overclock in bios from 4.5ghz to 4.7ghz? It would be greatly appreciated!
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A bit OT, but seeing that there isn't any other thread for Z170 MSI boards, I took a look at it. Still could use work.

Kitguru image:


I got to see it in person as well today.
  1. The RAM is still a bit too close to the first PCI-E slot for comfort, although at least they are using single switch DIMMs
  2. The CPU might be a bit too close to the first PCI-E slot for some of the larger coolers; I think a Noctua D15S should work though
  3. I don't like the fact that they've put the auxiliary power right between the first PCI-E slot and the VRM heatsink; they seem to have this bad habit of doing that
  4. Fan header placement could be better. Same annoying problem - CPU is 2x PWM headers, while the rest is 3x voltage controlled headers. They need to up their game here. All fan headers should be able to support both PWM and voltage.
  5. The red knob that they use for OC felt a bit flimsy (this seems to be a common problem across all boards - when I saw the Asus Z170 Maximus Extreme, it had similar issues and it was like $450 USD)

They have done some good though:
  • They got rid of the wi-fi which is good (the Intel 7260 has problems with 2.4 GHz, and drive issues, although when it works, the 5 GHz performance is pretty good, especially compared to wi-fi like the Killer wifi cards (latest version is the Killer 1535 IIRC at time of this writing)); I recommend most people use wired and there, I prefer the Intel NICs, which I'm glad they've used on the XPower
  • I like the idea of moving the buttons off the board for OC, as it makes it easier to work with.
  • They got rid of the IO panel shield (that can make it hard to mount a board and apparently, according to MSI, made it hard to insulate to with the LN2 overclockers). You'll notice that the area around the CPU is clean for that reason.
  • You may or may not like the silver color scheme (the images don't do it justice - it isn't white, but silver)
  • Steel reinforced PCI-E slots are a good addition, because GPUs are getting heavier

Some progress, but a ways to go too.

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Originally Posted by med1kl View Post

Why does my bclk keep changing (x99a gaming 7), I have all C-States/EIST /power saving features off I think. I'm shooting for 4.7ghz @ 1.4 volts yet the bclck keeps jumping to 102.4 something...

The reason why is your overclock is too high, even for 1.4V.

Very few Haswell E CPUs can do 4.7 GHz on air or water.

In the case of the 5960X, according to Silicon Lottery, only 5%. In the case of the 5820K and 5930K, that would be 11%. They use Asus ROG Real Bench, which is far less stringent than LinX (which is Linpak). So the number that can pass Linpak would be even lower - probably 1% for the 5960X and maybe the top 2% for the 5830K/5930K I would guess.

4.4 to 4.6 Ghz is what you can expect.

As far as BIOS settings go, try:
  • Lower uncore to 3 GHz
  • Set voltage to 1.325V (1.35V is the highest I'd go for 24-7)
  • Try 1.95 V VCCIN (I wouldn't recommend going over 2.05V for long, unless you don't mind risking your chip over time)
  • Lower your RAM OC (you can play with that later once you've gotten your other OC up)

You could play around with LLC, switching, and a few other settings, but odds are 4.4-4.6 GHz is what you are going to get.

After that you can try for the Uncore and the RAM overclocks.
Edited by CrazyElf - 2/6/16 at 11:47am
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