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Well according to google, Asus from mid 2014 to mid 2015 is 1.89% RMA rate and MSI is 2.5%..... and before that Asus was leading in the RMA %.,.... Thats all from a German hardware company. So out of 100 mobos, Asus has around 2 faulty and MSI has 2.5 faulty..... So it's not far higher and you can google it yourself. Unless you have any evidence at all, no reason to believe a word you say.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/2014-motherboard-rma-rate-new-update-from-hardware-fr.207128/

First a clarification; I asked my friend again, and what he said is that the big difference in RMA is with graphics cards, XFX and MSI are far higher then the others. For how long it has been like this, I do not know, the MSI RMA was a surprise to me. When it comes to mobos I do not have more specific info. But when a company have bad(?) quality control in one area like GPUs, it most likely says something about their other products too.

Thanks for the link. A few months back I looked at the french info, without graphs, it was actually a base for my selecting MSI over Asus. The difference in RMA for the different companies are very small, outside a few models that spike. Some models/chipsets have more RMA then others, some companies are a bit worse on some hardware type then others, but overall very much the same, no big differences. But as I said, some models have a lot higher RMA then others, but keep in mind that the higher volume is sold of one model, the higher total % that model will have of RMA (statisticly). So the companies that sell a lot of units, will also have the highest number of RMAs, if their fault rate isnt a lot lower then the others.

Keep in mind those numbers in the link you posted are more then 1 year old. You must also keep in mind what kind of service each company gives. This is something I thankfully have not experienced much. Only experience I have had so far is when I had to return a defect Asus Swift PG278Q monitor (it partly failed after a little over 1 year), which thankfully Asus had an extended warranty on (a big plus in 'my book' to Asus).

I have no agenda vs any company, I simply stated I went away from Asus this time to get a MSI board, based on my 3770 Asus board became unstable after a few months and I was suggested to try MSI. I also stated that I most likely the next time will go back to Asus, or Gigabyte (good experience on low end computers running 24/7/365). The reason for me most likely switching away from MSI again is mainly due to how MSI do NOT optimize PCI-E lanes/placements for Nvidia SLI (preferred/default slots for 2 way SLI are WAY too close, resulting in very hot cards and a lot of fan noise, and shorter lifespan on the cards), and secondly due to the Nvidia SLI card numbering bug in MSI BIOS (anchor/card number which is naturally number 1 is marked as number 2 and vise versa). These 2 things for me is an issue, since I run 2-way SLI. A person not running SLI wouldnt even know about these issues, and in my position be 100% happy with the board, since these are the issues I have with my KraitX99A. Yes, there is also a issue with the board being picky on RAM XMP profiles (see my post history in this thread), but this may also be the X99 chipset in general, I do not know.

Outside of that, you can believe whatever you want. Really do not bother me that random person number 43530824 on the Internet do not believe what I write...
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I think these are isolated incidents. I have RMA'd with MSI before and it wasn't that bad. They even sent me a brand new motherboard, box and all. I had more trouble with Corsair than I did with MSI.

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https://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/X99A-GODLIKE-GAMING-CARBON.html#hero-overview

Might as well as here:
For 3 way SLI, I can use 1th, 4th and 5th PCI slot?

Meaning that 3 way SLI + M.2 SSD + PCI SSD + 10GB network card should work?

With a 40 lane CPU... M.2 will go to 2x speed in 3 way SLI.
 
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With a 40 lane CPU... M.2 will go to 2x speed in 3 way SLI.
8+8+8+4+4+4, that still leaves 4 lanes.
Or I'm I forced to use 16+8+8+4+2+2?
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8+8+8+4+4+4, that still leaves 4 lanes.
Or I'm I forced to use 16+8+8+4+2+2?

16x, 16x, 8x & M.2 will be 2.0 speed. PCI-SSD will run x1.

My 950 pro only gets 1900mb/s & it's a 512GB with 3 way SLI. If I had a 5820K running 3 way SLI, it would get 3x4 speed. Seem that most boards are suited towards the 5820K. Not any difference between 16x & 8. Not where you'd tell.
 
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16x, 16x, 8x & M.2 will be 2.0 speed. PCI-SSD will run x1.

My 950 pro only gets 1900mb/s & it's a 512GB with 3 way SLI. If I had a 5820K running 3 way SLI, it would get 3x4 speed. Seem that most boards are suited towards the 5820K. Not any difference between 16x & 8. Not where you'd tell.
There is no way I can set it manually?
With 8x on the 3 GPUs, so do I have enough lanes left over.

3-way mode: x16/ x0/ x0/ x16/ x8*, x8/ x8/ x0/ x8/ x0**
If it can adjust it self with the number of PCI lanes you got, then the number of total cards should effect it as well.
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There is no way I can set it manually?
With 8x on the 3 GPUs, so do I have enough lanes left over.

3-way mode: x16/ x0/ x0/ x16/ x8*, x8/ x8/ x0/ x8/ x0**
If it can adjust it self with the number of PCI lanes you got, then the number of total cards should effect it as well.

Nope, it's the set table......

 
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Nope, it's the set table......

But how does it work when I have 2 cards in along with the 3 way SLI?
I mean, my PCI SSD is gen3 x4 and the network card is gen2 x2 or x4.

Limiting my PCI to gen2 2x for the m.2 and PCI ssd, would mean cutting the speed down to 1400 MB/sec, if not all the way down to 1024 MB/sec.
Which means I could have gotten cheaper once, as anything above 1400 MB/sec is wasted.
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My 950 gets close to 1900 on read & 1400 on write.... Both will run @ gen 2. I was hoping Intel would increase the lanes with their new CPU's, but we're stuck with the same ol. I'm not disappointed, but I definitely will do research when I upgrade again.. Seems like the 5930 is caught in the middle, as the 5820 does proper speeds with an M.2 for less money. A 5960 is even worse! LOL
 
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My 950 gets close to 1900 on read & 1400 on write.... Both will run @ gen 2. I was hoping Intel would increase the lanes with their new CPU's, but we're stuck with the same ol. I'm not disappointed, but I definitely will do research when I upgrade again.. Seems like the 5930 is caught in the middle, as the 5820 does proper speeds with an M.2 for less money. A 5960 is even worse! LOL
Its not so bad then, but 1900 is 600 away from top speed.
Which matters when you are doing 4k multi-cam video editing or something else that can max it out.
But with 3 way, so does the last 2 available slots become gen2?
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