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Its not so bad then, but 1900 is 600 away from top speed.
Which matters when you are doing 4k multi-cam video editing or something else that can max it out.
But with 3 way, so does the last 2 available slots become gen2?

That is correct about last two slots. The 950 has made a big difference in my life... Just wish it was 1TB. Remember Sata 5 & 6 are unusable with M.2 in
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That is correct about last two slots. The 950 has made a big difference in my life... Just wish it was 1TB. Remember Sata 5 & 6 are unusable with M.2 in
Guess its not worth it then.
Even just 3 way will reduce the m.2 to gen2.

So guess I need to find a motherboard that allows 3 way + a gen3 x4 card and m.2 gen3 x4.
I want the 10G network, but I can skip it if its impossible (file transfer will just take longer) or find the money for Asrock X99 WS-W/10GB, which even gives me space for 1 more card (triple at x16 (PCIE7) / x16 (PCIE5) / x16 (PCIE3)).
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Guess its not worth it then.
Even just 3 way will reduce the m.2 to gen2.

So guess I need to find a motherboard that allows 3 way + a gen3 x4 card and m.2 gen3 x4.
I want the 10G network, but I can skip it if its impossible (file transfer will just take longer) or find the money for Asrock X99 WS-W/10GB, which even gives me space for 1 more card (triple at x16 (PCIE7) / x16 (PCIE5) / x16 (PCIE3)).

I guess the problem with what you want to do my friend is no motherboard manufactures have even tested their boards for this. They're including all of these neato functions in their boards but due to the board designs they cannot utilize the 40lanes of the cpu the way that we're assuming they can. Just because we have a 40 lane processor doesn't mean it's going to run all of your devices at full speed.

I posted this earlier in the thread in regards to that.
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I guess the problem with what you want to do my friend is no motherboard manufactures have even tested their boards for this. They're including all of these neato functions in their boards but due to the board designs they cannot utilize the 40lanes of the cpu the way that we're assuming they can. Just because we have a 40 lane processor doesn't mean it's going to run all of your devices at full speed.
For my setup so would 16x+8x+8x+4x+4x+4x work.
The problem is finding a motherboard I can force that on.

What they said on the MSI official forum, is that the PCI lanes are distributed same way as the X99S GAMING 9 ACK:
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For my setup so would 16x+8x+8x+4x+4x+4x work.
The problem is finding a motherboard I can force that on.

What they said on the MSI official forum, is that the PCI lanes are distributed same way as the X99S GAMING 9 ACK:

X99S Gaming 9 ACK
X99A XPower AC
X99A Godlike
All have the same lane distribution
 
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X99S Gaming 9 ACK
X99A XPower AC
X99A Godlike
All have the same lane distribution
8x, 8x, 0x, 16x, 8x, 0x to m.2
That seems to be the setup for those 3 boards then.
Meaning I cant even run 3 way SLI + 1 PCI card and an m.2, at gen3.
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16x, 16x, 8x & M.2 will be 2.0 speed. PCI-SSD will run x1.

My 950 pro only gets 1900mb/s & it's a 512GB with 3 way SLI. If I had a 5820K running 3 way SLI, it would get 3x4 speed. Seem that most boards are suited towards the 5820K. Not any difference between 16x & 8. Not where you'd tell.
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8x, 8x, 0x, 16x, 8x, 0x to m.2
That seems to be the setup for those 3 boards then.
Meaning I cant even run 3 way SLI + 1 PCI card and an m.2, at gen3.

to clarify.

Pretend the m2 slot is the 5th pcie slot. For anything to run or get allocated x8 using the 5th slot, the m2 has to give up lanes to accomplish this.

So you can fill up the board as long as you don't use the last slot. (if using m2) or the sata express or 1 or 2 ports the motherboard says they all share. If you're going regular sata drives and not using m2, then you're in the zone.

If there is only a 1 slot gap in between the graphics cards, the slot in between them will be allocated to the graphics cards. I have no idea why the hell it does this, but unless they fix that with a firmware or bios update, it is what it is. I have not tried to test this issue with different types of cards.

For instance the intel card that is sitting in there is showing up in the empty slot above it with x4 lanes assigned to it despite the graphics cards both being in x16 slots, so it's forcing a card to run at 8.



So yeah you can't go shoving a **** load of cards onto this board. If you want to use m2, you gotta just kiss that last pci slot goodbye. Also my machine used to take 90 seconds to POST when that 5th slot was filled with anything and I've heard a few other people with this problem and msi boards and nobody has figured out if that's the culprit or not, as soon as I took anything out of that spot the computer posts as it does now in the video I posted a page back.

Still not as fast as a skylake system unfortunately but it is what it is.
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So yeah you can't go shoving a **** load of cards onto this board. If you want to use m2, you gotta just kiss that last pci slot goodbye.
Then what is the bloody point of giving us that many slots to begin with?

Anyway, seems I'm going Asrock for my next motherboard, as they at least let me use more then 4 PCI units freely.
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om1kron did you try turning off memory training on reboot? i know it doesn't solve the problem but it would atleast give an idea if that is the issue which honestly wouldn't surprise me T.T
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Well on other news... their new Godlike Carbon is coming out in March/April if their twitter account has any insight on the matter. Wonder how much that beast will cost.
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