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Hi Buddies,

 

So I have owned some headphones like Sony MDRED12-LP, Sennheiser CX 180 Stree II, Skullcandy (don't remember exact model, was somewhere near Rs.1100) and now I own a SoundMagic E10.

 

I've also had a luck of using Sony Ericcson Walkman phones, all of them were outstanding.

 

I listen to music on my phone, Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000, good audio quality. Mostly soft, jazz, some rock, hindi like bollywood, sufi, classical, A.R Rehman compositions, etc. basically all rounder :rolleyes:. I like having a good punch in bass but at the same I hate sacrificing clarity and detail in the audio, I want to be able to hear every instrument in detail no muddy sound at any frequency.

 

So that was all the information from my side, one more thing is that I'm looking for a full sized closed back headphone because it will provide best noise cancellation (most important for me, I listen when I'm in local trains, I live in Mumbai, quite noisy place). I'll use it with my Note only so probably an USB DAC will be worth something like Fiio E07k is what I can get.

 

 

Until I buy those audio gear I want to enjoy my SoundMagic E10's in it's full glory, do you guys have any suggestions for this too? Like foam earbuds or amp or DAC whatever can help taking my E10's to their limit of audio performance, they still have pretty good clarity and fine details (I want more) and very controlled punchy bass but I want more.

 

 

I don't have any brand preferences in the first place (you can see I have E10, made in China but are really good), only thing is that I want best upgrade from my E10 within a budget, I may push it to $120 if it's worth.


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Do you want noise canceling headphones then? or just isolating cans? The cheapass solution would be to use the in-earphones you already have and like, and then put some hearing protectors over them.

These are ten bucks in the US
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Do you want noise canceling headphones then? or just isolating cans? The cheapass solution would be to use the in-earphones you already have and like, and then put some hearing protectors over them.

These are ten bucks in the US

 

Noise cancellation is of more importance (OP updated)

 

Although if it is worth for the audio quality then IEM+hearing protectors, if SQ of an IEM at that price is better than the noise cancelling headphone at that price, but I guess noise cancelling headphones are better option. I don't want to look like a fool who puts the headphones and then wears a headphone/earmuff over it, It'll look just too odd in public/travel.

 

Noise cancelling headphones :thumb:


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Can I have some recommendations please

    
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"Mostly soft, jazz, some rock, hindi like bollywood, sufi, classical, A.R Rehman compositions, etc. basically all rounder rolleyes.gif"

Well considering you want all-rounders what you want is Studio Headphones. Studio Headphones are required to sound the most neutral for all sounds and have a wide spectrum displaying all highs, mids and depths clearly. In relation to that most regular Headphones (even High Fidelity ones) are tuned for a specific tastes - and will modify the sound for example increasing the highs or bass that just can't perform good on anything you throw at them. That 's why cheap Headphones aren't that bad if you don't want to spend any since even when they have a crappy overall sound quality they're somewhat neutral (since they're lacking in everything biggrin.gif).

A listening comparison for three good Studio Headphone around that price (well a bit above):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWBwXIVvKrk

SonicSenseProAudio 's Channel is about the only one providing these kind of tests that are simply awesome enabling one to get an (limited) impression of the listen-performance of Audio-Equipment over the net even with somewhat crappy Headphones / Speakers. The only important thing to notice is that you don't listen to tests on the same device that is being tested since the spectrum will be double and it will produce weird results. For more info see their channel how those tests work. It 's really great and you'll struggle to find anything that 's coming close to it other then just visiting a store and listening to those in real life.

As for my own opinion having tested the DT-770 Pro 80OHM Version I can say I was not impressed with it they sounded lacking exactly the same as what you (or at least I) hear on the sample video above. What you probably seek is either the ATH-M50x (which are a bit more bass focused) or the ATH-M40x which are more neutral and also cost about 100$ - they deliver the best price / performance ration and are really really great. The also have a switchable cable which is just priceless in my opinion especially if you plan to go mobile (just use the shorter cable then). Definitely give them a go - another option would be the Shure 840 which is a mix between the ATH-M50x and ATH-M40x soundwise, are more comfortable but are also not build as rugged as the ATH headphones. And they cost more, have no detachable cable and are a bit less portable.

The ATH-50 and -40 Headphones might require bending a bit in case they're pressuring to much due to their steel band (there 's videos around for the 50 model describing it - it 's a legitimate technic even promoted by the manufacturer). Anyway I think any of those might suit your taste.

Cheers!

Edit:

Let me add one thing - Noise cancelling is destroying all sound quality. Nuff said. If you still want it prepare to ditch some serious money to get even close to good sound for example the Samsung Level Over Headphone for over 300$ - those are made for phones even more so Samsung Phones - still their Noise Canceling is okish (most audiphiles still turn in their grave if you turn it on) and about one of the few Wireless Headphones which received good notes / reviews from HiFi-Reviewers for their performance over BT (due to implementing not only ATX compression).

Anyway - if you buy any cheaper then that - expect to receive worse performance in terms of sound just for that sake of stupid gadgets. A good Over-Ear Studio-Headphone will cancel out all sound better then any technical implementation can ever do.

I think that 's all advice I can give you. If you want alternatives it 's up to you. Prepare for some serious testing thought. It isn't easy to get Headphones that manage everything you throw at them especially if your budget is limited. Just remember - don't focus on stupid gadgets but pure sound and build quality if you want to be happy in the long term.
Edited by justyourimage - 9/11/14 at 6:53am
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I've always been a fan of JVC HA-RX700 and JVC HA-RX900's the 900's have a bit more punch to the bass and they are both well priced decent headphones the 700's can be had for around 32 usd and the 900's are around 50 usd.
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I've always been a fan of JVC HA-RX700 and JVC HA-RX900's the 900's have a bit more punch to the bass and they are both well priced decent headphones the 700's can be had for around 32 usd and the 900's are around 50 usd.

Amazon.de reviews say they leak sound in/out thought - as in having a bad insulation (= worse "noise canceling").
If you can life with that they don't read that bad (I didn't listen to them so can't say anything about them) -
there 's some other alternatives in that price-range around ~$50 as well if you're looking for something
around that price thought they're all rather tuned in a specific listening direction. smile.gif
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Noise cancellation is of more importance (OP updated)

Although if it is worth for the audio quality then IEM+hearing protectors, if SQ of an IEM at that price is better than the noise cancelling headphone at that price, but I guess noise cancelling headphones are better option. I don't want to look like a fool who puts the headphones and then wears a headphone/earmuff over it, It'll look just too odd in public/travel.

Noise cancelling headphones thumb.gif
No more odd than any full sided headphone, but I take your point.
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"Mostly soft, jazz, some rock, hindi like bollywood, sufi, classical, A.R Rehman compositions, etc. basically all rounder rolleyes.gif"

Well considering you want all-rounders what you want is Studio Headphones. Studio Headphones are required to sound the most neutral for all sounds and have a wide spectrum displaying all highs, mids and depths clearly. In relation to that most regular Headphones (even High Fidelity ones) are tuned for a specific tastes - and will modify the sound for example increasing the highs or bass that just can't perform good on anything you throw at them. That 's why cheap Headphones aren't that bad if you don't want to spend any since even when they have a crappy overall sound quality they're somewhat neutral (since they're lacking in everything biggrin.gif).

A listening comparison for three good Studio Headphone around that price (well a bit above):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWBwXIVvKrk

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As for my own opinion having tested the DT-770 Pro 80OHM Version I can say I was not impressed with it they sounded lacking exactly the same as what you (or at least I) hear on the sample video above. What you probably seek is either the ATH-M50x (which are a bit more bass focused) or the ATH-M40x which are more neutral and also cost about 100$ - they deliver the best price / performance ration and are really really great. The also have a switchable cable which is just priceless in my opinion especially if you plan to go mobile (just use the shorter cable then). Definitely give them a go - another option would be the Shure 840 which is a mix between the ATH-M50x and ATH-M40x soundwise, are more comfortable but are also not build as rugged as the ATH headphones. And they cost more, have no detachable cable and are a bit less portable.

The ATH-50 and -40 Headphones might require bending a bit in case they're pressuring to much due to their steel band (there 's videos around for the 50 model describing it - it 's a legitimate technic even promoted by the manufacturer). Anyway I think any of those might suit your taste.

Cheers!

Edit:

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Anyway - if you buy any cheaper then that - expect to receive worse performance in terms of sound just for that sake of stupid gadgets. A good Over-Ear Studio-Headphone will cancel out all sound better then any technical implementation can ever do.

I think that 's all advice I can give you. If you want alternatives it 's up to you. Prepare for some serious testing thought. It isn't easy to get Headphones that manage everything you throw at them especially if your budget is limited. Just remember - don't focus on stupid gadgets but pure sound and build quality if you want to be happy in the long term.

Okay, if that's the case then I will have to see for noise "Isolating" headphones then. Not a problem at all since all what I want is good SQ, great details, clarity, may be a bit on bassy side will be better.

 

Here are some filtered results from flipkart.com for Audio Technica headphones, I guess onlt M40 is the good one out of this bunch, are there any other in this bunch as good, here's a filtered result for Sennheisers

 

Aren't there any recommendations from Sony? No preference here but just curious since many studio guyz I know and seen use either Sennheisers or Sony headphones, I guess they might not be aware, but they surely don't use any of the Beats stuff :p

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by nubz View Post

I've always been a fan of JVC HA-RX700 and JVC HA-RX900's the 900's have a bit more punch to the bass and they are both well priced decent headphones the 700's can be had for around 32 usd and the 900's are around 50 usd.

Those JVC's are not available here, I can't find them. But if they do have sound leakage from out to in then they may not be for me, I need some for listening in local trains and it's hell noisy.

 

How about ATH-M50 instead of M40X? If that got a bit bass to it then it's OK as long it doesn't sacrifice SQ, details and clarity.

 

 

SQ, details and clarity & also noise isolation are most important things for me, if along with all that it got a bit of bass then better.

 

 

EDIT: I just saw some reviews on tested.com that say Sony MDR-7506 are the best in this price range, are they really? Reviews are really great and some similar remarks for ATH-M50 too. I can't find MDR-7506 on any Indian e-tailers, ATH headphones though are available from many. On amazon.in the 7506 is available but for nearly $180 (Rs.10,900). Are there any other Sony offerings equivalent in all aspects to the MDR-7506?


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I'm getting more inclined towards the ATH-M40X

 

The HD280 PRO has somewhat very different response, it isn't quite as flat as even my SoundMagic E10. Going through SonicSenseProAudio's Channel I figured out that only better upgrade to my E10's are M40/X or M50/X, since they have very even and flat response which is quite similar to my E10 (listening to samples on my E10 I didn't notice any change in low/mid/high response when listening to M40X/50X, on HD280 PRO, 7506, M20X/30X I did hear some changes). My E10 have the right amount of bass that I want and very good detail and clarity, actually more clarity than details. The M40X/50X might be better in clarity and details than my E10 with the similar response since I'm limited by my own hardware.

 

I don't know if an amp is really required with the M40X or will my Note 1 produce give good enough volume to these cans (I listen on full volume on my Note using E10 which I feel is still low)


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