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All that BS about an iPhone "just working"... If you're saying that, you're either really lucky or haven't owned a particular iPhone for a long time. Without a reset, they slow down like crazy over their life, and the flash wears out with resets.

Our old iPod touch an iPad are basically unusable right now. One hasn't been nuked and is running an old iOS because Apple MAKES you update mad.gif. The other is updated, but is slow as molasses because it's running a newer iOS. I've had 1 iPhone and a friend's iPhone get their antennas messed up, and one iPhone had a mic that constantly broke.
This is the same with android, I know a heap of people who are still on iphone 4's and they still work pretty well considering what is in them. Comparing them to the alternative(HTC desire, nexus one, GS1 ect.) and they are plenty fast for their age. As much as people want to hate on apple for not supporting old devices, they do much better than any other company. Name one company that still supports a phone they made in 2010 other than apple? I can't think of any, most dropped support two or three years ago, the nexus 1 didn't even get ICS IIRC which for a nexus phone was appauling.
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All that BS about an iPhone "just working"... If you're saying that, you're either really lucky or haven't owned a particular iPhone for a long time. Without a reset, they slow down like crazy over their life, and the flash wears out with resets.

Our old iPod touch an iPad are basically unusable right now. One hasn't been nuked and is running an old iOS because Apple MAKES you update mad.gif. The other is updated, but is slow as molasses because it's running a newer iOS. I've had 1 iPhone and a friend's iPhone get their antennas messed up, and one iPhone had a mic that constantly broke.
This is the same with android, I know a heap of people who are still on iphone 4's and they still work pretty well considering what is in them. Comparing them to the alternative(HTC desire, nexus one, GS1 ect.) and they are plenty fast for their age. As much as people want to hate on apple for not supporting old devices, they do much better than any other company. Name one company that still supports a phone they made in 2010 other than apple? I can't think of any, most dropped support two or three years ago, the nexus 1 didn't even get ICS IIRC which for a nexus phone was appauling.

True, my main beef with Apple is that they don't (officially) let you downgrade the OS. To them, controlling your OS (and preventing jailbreak exploits) is more important than giving users a choice to increase the longevity of their device. iOS7 killed my iPhone 4, but fortunately I could use tiny umbrella to downgrade it.


But yes, that's not as bad as losing support entirely.
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The UI is great and quite smooth. Also the social media apps are vastly superior to the android counterparts.
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It's simply. The construction of the phone may be the best over all the existing phones, aluminium body, ips screen, etc. The OS is way better than android in terms of stability and security, yeah you can't mod it, but you can jailbreak it and add a lot of customs if you're not happy with standard apps. The UI is just smooth as you can get. And let's face it. The UI design it's way nicer than android.


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It's simply. The construction of the phone may be the best over all the existing phones, aluminium body, ips screen, etc. The OS is way better than android in terms of stability and security, yeah you can't mod it, but you can jailbreak it and add a lot of customs if you're not happy with standard apps. The UI is just smooth as you can get. And let's face it. The UI design it's way nicer than android.


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An HTC M7/M8 has comparable build quality (if not better). Android isn't bad, it is Linux after all biggrin.gif. And the emulators are better...


My ideal phone would be a HTC M7 with an Apple A8 SOC, an internal amp, and the latest version of android with some decent drivers.
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It's simply. The construction of the phone may be the best over all the existing phones, aluminium body, ips screen, etc. The OS is way better than android in terms of stability and security, yeah you can't mod it, but you can jailbreak it and add a lot of customs if you're not happy with standard apps. The UI is just smooth as you can get. And let's face it. The UI design it's way nicer than android.


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An HTC M7/M8 has comparable build quality (if not better). Android isn't bad, it is Linux after all biggrin.gif. And the emulators are better...


My ideal phone would be a HTC M7 with an Apple A8 SOC, an internal amp, and the latest version of android with some decent drivers.

You're right about built quality in m8 a friend of mine have it and it's head to head with my 5s. About OS until 4.4 android was Linux kernel but without any modification. That's the reason why iOS uses 350mb of ram and android vastly more. iOS it's less "modeable" but that's what make it so stable and secure. At OS level android can't compete with an OS that was optimised all over this years for just one phone.

But this is not a tech debate. I'm just justifying why an iPhone cost that much. People says it's overpriced I think you are paying what you get, one of the best, top notch built quality, extremely optimised, secure, stable OS.


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People who buy iPhones are not "techies" and iPhones are pretty technical pieces of hardware, so when something goes wrong they don't know how to fix it. Combine that with the fact that there aren't near as many techie help sites devoted to iPhones as there are for Androids and you have a recipe for disaster for the general population!

I spent years modding and hacking non apple phones and I got an iPhone because I couldn't mod/hack it. Yeah, I've had problems, but being a teckie I kind of know where to go to get info, and there's always the Apple store where they an fix anything.

iPhones are popular because when they're working, like all Apple products, they do what they're supposed to do, no more, no less.

My 2 cents.........

To straight up say that people who own iPhones are not techies is ridiculous. I am an iPhone owner and have been for years.

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Once you are stuck with an Eco system, it's pretty hard to switch. Personally I use android for easy Google sync, and the ability to tinker with my phone.

This is very true. The Apple ecosystem is pretty nice once you're inside. As an owner of an iPhone, iPad, several iPods, a MacBook Pro, AppleTV, Time Capsule, and many others, they all work BEAUTIFULLY together and I am very happy with that.

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Well firstly their phones are gorgeous. Let's be honest, it looks very sleek and very well built, even though that's usually not the case (ala poor reception if you held it wrong, bad battery life etc). Secondly the OS experience has always been buttery smooth. For the average consumer you didn't have the frustration of dealing with device lag that android had until recently. Third the plethora of apps means they have a built in audience. And finally, marketing marketing marketing; Exploiting people's consumerism for flashy toys and being with the it crowd.

Gorgeous, yes. Usually not the case with build quality? No idea what you're talking about. In my own experience the build quality is superb. The vast majority of battery issues can be fixed with software troubleshooting and don't even try to correct me on this, I used to train Apple Tech support. OS is buttery smooth, that's for damn sure.

And the plethora of apps is very true. But it isn't just the sheer number, but it's the quality of those apps. You can find loads of apps in other ecosystems as well but they always feel - at least to me - clumsy and of poor quality.

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All that BS about an iPhone "just working"... If you're saying that, you're either really lucky or haven't owned a particular iPhone for a long time. Without a reset, they slow down like crazy over their life, and the flash wears out with resets.

Our old iPod touch an iPad are basically unusable right now. One hasn't been nuked and is running an old iOS because Apple MAKES you update mad.gif. The other is updated, but is slow as molasses because it's running a newer iOS. I've had 1 iPhone and a friend's iPhone get their antennas messed up, and one iPhone had a mic that constantly broke.


Not to say that Android is any better. It's certainly easier to screw up, and I'm sure it degrades just as much over time. But at least you can flash older version of android.


I am sitting here right now listening to a first generation iPod nano. Still works like a champ. Beside that is my iPad 2, also still works like a champ. I've had my iPhone 5 since launch and I've never had to restore it. The only times I've ever had to do anything software wise was due to beta testing and what are you talking about the "flash wears out with resets"?

Also, Apple doesn't MAKE you update..software/hardware eventually becomes obsolete. Apple would of course prefer that you stay up to date for a number of reasons but you don't HAVE to do anything.
    
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Are you saying iOS isn't secure?

Ask Jennifer lawrence biggrin.gifwheee.giflachen.gif
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Ask Jennifer lawrence biggrin.gifwheee.giflachen.gif
And that had... nothing to do with iOS.
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In mobile communications, of course it does.
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