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Here is my issue I always buy cheap and junk so as expected i bought cheap and junk. My old linksys router died so 6 months ago I bought a belkin n150 and it worked great for 6 months but here I am.

It started acting up a week ago and has not worked right since. Yesterday it just scrapped out so I'm done with it

I need a reasonably cheap router that's reliable and accepts at least 5 devices connected to WiFi at once. X3 cell phones. X2 laptops.

I prefer to buy locally like bestbuy. Walmart. Target but will do online also.

I'd say 60 is all I can spend atm

Was looking at these but will obviously Choose others

Linksys E1200-np 38.00
Netgear Wnr2000- 40.00
Netgear n150- 27.00

Both at bestbuy
Edited by 4LC4PON3 - 9/14/14 at 6:56am
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Few quick questions.

Do you need gigabit LAN ports? Do you prefer dual band? Is 802.11ac something you could benefit from? ($60 is cutting it thin for an AC router, but doable.)

I've had a WRN2000v3 and it lasted at least 1.5 years no problem. Downside was no dualband or gigabit ports. However, I think they make a version just like it with gigabit. Great router, but if I recall correctly, not an easy router to put custom DDWRT firmware on.

In my experience, I've found stock Netgear firmware (branded as Genie these days) is quite stable and it's what I run on my main router, a WNDR4300.
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Honestly I have no idea of those questions.

I live in an 80 foot trailer so I need some range. My ps4 is hooked up hardware. Our internet is only 15-1

I'm not very experienced in routers
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No problem. My internet is only 16-2. You'd benefit from having the gigabit ports and faster WiFi if you transfer files over network. Typically unless you run some sort of file server, the essentials will be just fine.

The WRN2000 is a great, well known and respected stable router and I'd recommend it. You can get them pretty cheap and they are very reliable. I was surprised by the range on the thing. If you're just using it on 1 level I think you'll be OK. The benefit of buying locally is you can always return it if its not.
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So here is a question how would u know the limit of a routers WiFi connectivity with devices.

Can the wrn2000 accept 1 hard wire ps4 and let's say 4 hooked up WiFi no problem?
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So here is a question how would u know the limit of a routers WiFi connectivity with devices.

Can the wrn2000 accept 1 hard wire ps4 and let's say 4 hooked up WiFi no problem?

Oh yes of course. With DHCP (tech your router uses to distribute IP addresses to clients on the network), you can technically have something like 255 devices. I think. Somewhere close to there. In reality and with the hardware limitations of the router, no you couldn't reach this but I can assure you it will handle 4 wireless clients and 1 wired PS4 no problem. You can always establish QoS rules to prioritize bandwidth on certain devices if you chose, but I couldn't help you on that. (The WRN2000 does support this though.)

When I had a WRN2000 I had all 4 LAN ports used along with ~6-7 WiFi devices plugged in PLUS an additional ethernet switch connected to have a few more LAN ports. I had about 6 wired devices at the time I think.

Oh, almost forgot to mention. Set the 2.4GHz channel to a less crowded one, like 1, 6, or 11. You can download a free trial of a program called inSSider that will show you the least congested channels.

tldr; the WRN2000 will have no problem with 1 wired PS4 and 4 other WiFi devices.
Edited by axizor - 9/14/14 at 10:29am
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I think you can have 254 devices on a Class C subnet like most home networks are. Lets say your network is 192.168.1.0 -- 192.168.1.255. The 192.168.1.0 is the network address so that IP cannot be used. The 192.168.1.255 is the broadcast address so that one cannot be used. That leaves 254 addresses and one of those is going to be your gateway(Router) device so in reality the router is capable of assigning IP addresses to 253 devices at the same time.

So 1 physical Ethernet connection and 4 wireless connections is no problem. Although, as more wireless devices are connected your wireless network is going to slow down because it is distributing the throughput between so many devices. As an example, Only having one wireless device connected and transferring a file to lets say an Ethernet connected PC for data storage on the network is going to be faster than having 4 wireless devices and each transferring a file at the same time.

You might want to get a router at least with Gigabit Ethernet(1000Mbps) and 802.11n wireless dual band 2.4GHz and 5.0GHz bands. I think these routers usually advertise as N300 or N600 300Mbps or 600Mbps(300+300) for wireless.

Those minimum specifications should handle your devices just fine. I recommend Netgear over brands like Linksys and Belkin. Those are typically the brands of routers you find at local retail stores such as Walmart.
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He has no need for gigabit ethernet because he just has 1 wired PS4 and since his internet is only 15-1, fast ethernet will suffice.

Dual band isn't a deal breaker and the guy needs a decent amount of range so unless his clients have excellent antennas (they don't) 5Ghz isn't necessary.

You can't go wrong with the WRN2000. As long as you buy it at the store new, it should be the latest revision, which is still 3 I believe.
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He has no need for gigabit ethernet because he just has 1 wired PS4 and since his internet is only 15-1, fast ethernet will suffice.

Dual band isn't a deal breaker and the guy needs a decent amount of range so unless his clients have excellent antennas (they don't) 5Ghz isn't necessary.

You can't go wrong with the WRN2000. As long as you buy it at the store new, it should be the latest revision, which is still 3 I believe.

My profession is a network administrator so I decide on component replacement and upgrades commonly. I think my suggestions for the Gigabit Ethernet and the dual band comes from the standard policy in network design is that you buy equipment with future technology and possible needs considered.

Yeah, the WRN2000 would work great for him...I am just so accustomed to getting equipment with technology a little ahead of what I actually need at the time.
   
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My profession is a network administrator so I decide on component replacement and upgrades commonly. I think my suggestions for the Gigabit Ethernet and the dual band comes from the standard policy in network design is that you buy equipment with future technology and possible needs considered.

Yeah, the WRN2000 would work great for him...I am just so accustomed to getting equipment with technology a little ahead of what I actually need at the time.

I completely agree (and understand.) OP did concern a price point which I was trying to keep in mind. He's also limited in retailers too.

Aspiring network admin myself. Dinking around with Linux and learning TCP/IP fundamentals on my own. Eventually will start relevant classes once I transfer uni.
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