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[TC/BW] The Smart Gun That Only Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

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The gun works by creating a user ID and locking in the fingerprint of each user allowed to use the gun. The gun will only unlock with the unique fingerprint of those who have already permission to access the gun. The clearly brainy teen tells me he has an interest in information security. According to him, all user data is kept right on the gun and nothing is uploaded anywhere else so it would be pretty hard to hack. This potentially makes it ideal for military use as well.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/13/colorado-high-schooler-invents-smart-gun-that-unlocks-with-your-fingerprint/

http://www.beautyworldnews.com/articles/12017/20140914/colorado-teen-invents-fingerprint-reading-smart-gun.htm

See, this is the type of thing that makes everybody happy.

Pro gun control fans love it because it finally gives a extra layer of REAL security.

Gun owners will love it because it'll get gun control people off their back.

And I love it because I can finally replace my 1911.
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How will it get gun people off their back? Majority of the shootings out there are done by people who own the guns.

Not to mention this is not going to be retroactively applied (and enforced) to all guns already in existence.

Good execution, but it does nothing to change the debate on why people feel the need to have guns in the first place.
 
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this wont fix crazy people which are the issue.
my wife and i having to log into our guns wont prevent some person with an untreated mental illness from logging into theirs as well before they do something CRAZY.
how about we stop ignoring when someone has a mental deficiency in this country...oops, i mean, WORLD.
 
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Eh, I actually thought of this a few years back,but didn't feel it would be viable.Guess that's why I'm broke and some dude is gonna make a bunch of money from this idea.
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Actually they won't. A gun seller in New Jersey received death threats from "gun rights" people for wanting to stock smart guns. He ended up backing down.
That's most likely because NJ has a wacky "Child Safe Gun" law that states that once a personalized/smart gun is sold in New Jersey, within 30 months all new handguns must have the smart/safety feature. People were only trying to avoid that law from taking affect. Which of course should not necessitate death threats, perhaps a more civilized tactic like....oh I don't know, conversation?
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This seems like a great product for a family worried about their children accidently finding or discharging their gun, but I would hope they don't require all guns to use the technology. I don't want to worry about having to charge my gats before a range day...
 
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I like the idea BUT, I have to agree with t00sl0w on this one.

Shootings are carried out by people who are not mentally stable and shouldn't have a gun in the first place. Even if every gun was a "smart" gun it wouldn't have stopped the VT shooting which happened just 30 mins from my house. Seung-Hui Cho leagally purchased the guns he used because he was not marked as mentally unstable even though he should have been

There is only one thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun and that's a good guy with a gun.
 
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Originally Posted by frickfrock999 View Post

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http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/13/colorado-high-schooler-invents-smart-gun-that-unlocks-with-your-fingerprint/

http://www.beautyworldnews.com/articles/12017/20140914/colorado-teen-invents-fingerprint-reading-smart-gun.htm

See, this is the type of thing that makes everybody happy.

Pro gun control fans love it because it finally gives a extra layer of REAL security.

Gun owners will love it because it'll get gun control people off their back.

And I love it because I can finally replace my 1911.
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(1) Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
(2) Gun Control fans will never be satisfied until every gun is out of the hands of freedom loving citizens
(3) Gun owners do not love any form of "gun control," unless they are controlling the gun
(4) You should have bought a Glock years ago
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Originally Posted by Rykoshet View Post

How will it get gun people off their back? Majority of the shootings out there are done by people who own the guns.

Good execution, but it does nothing to change the debate on why people feel the need to have guns in the first place.
(1) The majority of shootings are performed by military, police and gang bangers, NOT lawful citizens
(2) Guns are tools just like a PC is a tool. Why do you "Need" a PC? Humanity got along just fine before the personal computer so really why do YOU NEED a PC? And what gives you the right to tell me what I "need?"

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That's most likely because NJ has a wacky "Child Safe Gun" law that states that once a personalized/smart gun is sold in New Jersey, within 30 months all new handguns must have the smart/safety feature. People were only trying to avoid that law from taking affect. Which of course should not necessitate death threats, perhaps a more civilized tactic like....oh I don't know, conversation?
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This seems like a great product for a family worried about their children accidently finding or discharging their gun, but I would hope they don't require all guns to use the technology. I don't want to worry about having to charge my gats before a range day...
(1) You don't converse with nutbags......you shoot them.
(2) Put your guns in a nice safe if you have children. If you can afford the children then, you can afford the safe and the safety issue is solved. Children have a much higher probability of getting killed riding their bike and getting struck by a car or drowning.
 
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Originally Posted by DampMonkey View Post

That's most likely because NJ has a wacky "Child Safe Gun" law that states that once a personalized/smart gun is sold in New Jersey, within 30 months all new handguns must have the smart/safety feature. People were only trying to avoid that law from taking affect. Which of course should not necessitate death threats, perhaps a more civilized tactic like....oh I don't know, conversation? :rolleyes
When you have a group of people whose identity is defined by their capacity for lethal force, why should we expect conversation and not death threats?
 
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Actually they won't. A gun seller in New Jersey received death threats from "gun rights" people for wanting to stock smart guns. He ended up backing down.
What are you talking about? Can I see the proof for this?

People don't send death threats for wanting protection, seems like a pretty big contradiction, right?

Gun rights is actually a very important topic that I won't get into right now but I'd hope you'd research the how's and why's and educate yourself on it.
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When you have a group of people whose identity is defined by their capacity for lethal force, why should we expect conversation and not death threats?
Why? Because the government uses infinitely more and of course governments have never done anything bad to its people in the past! Oh no...

Regardless, if you actually studied history you would know what's real and what isn't. From your responses it seems you're very short-minded on the matter. It's exactly what 'they' want you to do so you never use common sense and figure it out.
 
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My mistake, he's in Maryland, not New Jersey. But source. New Jersey came to mind because that's what the people making the threats were worried about, the law that exists there. But the dealer has since backed off and decided not to sell the smartgun, because, you know, death threats.

I'm rather well educated on the subject, actually.

Nice to see your first reaction to someone who doesn't think the way you do is insult their intelligence, though. That's a great way to have a conversation.
 
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Originally Posted by l88bastar View Post

(1) Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
(2) Gun Control fans will never be satisfied until every gun is out of the hands of freedom loving citizens
(3) Gun owners do not love any form of "gun control," unless they are controlling the gun
(4) You should have bought a Glock years ago
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At least you have some common sense. Thank you for contributing to this thread.
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#20 ·
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Originally Posted by DampMonkey View Post

That's most likely because NJ has a wacky "Child Safe Gun" law that states that once a personalized/smart gun is sold in New Jersey, within 30 months all new handguns must have the smart/safety feature. People were only trying to avoid that law from taking affect. Which of course should not necessitate death threats, perhaps a more civilized tactic like....oh I don't know, conversation?
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This seems like a great product for a family worried about their children accidently finding or discharging their gun, but I would hope they don't require all guns to use the technology. I don't want to worry about having to charge my gats before a range day...
Indeed. They always start small then ramp it up and take away all the rights in that given field (e.g. gun rights), I do understand the concern but if this spreads as a requirement for any guns then well, that's the end of that!
 
#22 ·
I'm also amused by the assumption that I'm one of the gun control nuts. All I did was state a fact, that gun rights supporters issued death threats when a gun dealer said he was going to sell a smart gun. Adding facts to the debate apparently makes me one of those people who lack common sense, eh?

I guess I'd rather not have it in that case
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#23 ·
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Originally Posted by Bluelionpiper View Post

I like the idea BUT, I have to agree with t00sl0w on this one.

Shootings are carried out by people who are not mentally stable and shouldn't have a gun in the first place. Even if every gun was a "smart" gun it wouldn't have stopped the VT shooting which happened just 30 mins from my house. Seung-Hui Cho leagally purchased the guns he used because he was not marked as mentally unstable even though he should have been

There is only one thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun and that's a good guy with a gun.
I don't think this technology is meant for that exact scenario. People purchasing guns legally and using them maliciously is a whole different battle for a different day. This tech is for the cases where a person stole a gun from someone they knew and used it for bad things, or for children who are scrounging through their parents closet and find a loaded gun and hurt themselves/someone else.

The scenario where people steal guns from people they know and use them maliciously happens all to frequently. In 2007, a kid went into a mall about 7 minutes from my house with his stepdad's AK47 he stole and killed 8 innocent shoppers then himself. Could that have been avoided with fingerprint tech? Probably not, because he would have most likely been a "registered" user of the gun. But you see where im getting at, right?
 
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Why dont they just make gun owners take a mental check up every 3 months or so to weed out some of the more volatile ones.
 
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Originally Posted by DampMonkey View Post

I don't think this technology is meant for that exact scenario. People purchasing guns legally and using them maliciously is a whole different battle for a different day. This tech is for the cases where a person stole a gun from someone they knew and used it for bad things, or for children who are scrounging through their parents closet and find a loaded gun and hurt themselves/someone else.

The scenario where people steal guns from people they know and use them maliciously happens all to frequently. In 2007, a kid went into a mall about 7 minutes from my house with his stepdad's AK47 he stole and killed 8 innocent shoppers then himself. Could that have been avoided with fingerprint tech? Probably not, because he would have most likely been a "registered" user of the gun. But you see where im getting at, right?
You act as if a gun is difficult to manufacture. They are NOT. A firearm is not like a Personal Computer where the average person could not create the needed processors and chips in their garage. However, a firearm can be made by anybody with a rudimentary set of skills and patience.

So even if there were some wacky fingertip scanner butting thingy that needed to be activated before the gun could be used, criminals would always find a way around that....and most likely buy black market firearms that were made from shovels
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http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning!
 
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