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Firestrike won't show the real picture it only loads one device at a time. You need some games which load CPU and GPU simultaneously to compare.


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Will run GTA V for 10 min. will report in a few wink.gif
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Swiftech recommended having cool air drawn in from outside the case for their H220 but it was blowing warm air on my upper GTX-680 causing its temps to rise to 77° which we all know caused throttling so I try to keep as much fresh air flowing into the case and exhausting all of the warm radiator air outside but that's just me.

Of course, all the AIOs makers do because they feel they can get the best temps in the short run that way. All AIOs were designed for use on CPUs not GPUs. But GPUs dump A LOT of heat out, I am one of the main contributors over in the Kraken G-10 threads and a lot of people make the mistake of putting them on intake at first because the instructions say to. But They never intended them for GPUs. I have SLI 980s and when I start to game, the air exhausted from my system can trip the AC thermostat in the hall 25 ft down the hall in 10 minutes. The amount of heat generated by the gpu over the smaller area of the die is tremendous compared to the output of the CPU. Just compare the wattage in most circumstances. Surely you can understand how putting that in a closed case isnt good. Thats not to say there are no exceptions to the rule, but they are very rare. Here is a diagram of my system for reference on what I did.



You will get the best performance dumping the air from the GPU out of the case 99 percent of the time. Usually with the CPU as well. My case has enough airflow where I actually see better temps with the CPU radiator on intake. Both GPUs have to be exhaust. Best way to do it is experiment

Edit: the diagram does not show it, but the top 2 140mms are on an H110. The 2 140mms popinting toward the viewer are H=90s
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I've built several and tested numerous setups which is why I say if both the CPU and GPU are under water then having both as intake is the best way. It's not the same as having the GPU dump the air directly into the case it doesn't work that way.


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If you have it on intake, it is going into the case. You may have the air circuit to get that heat out, the question is do the others.
   
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I've built several and tested numerous setups which is why I say if both the CPU and GPU are under water then having both as intake is the best way. It's not the same as having the GPU dump the air directly into the case it doesn't work that way.


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If you have it on intake, it is going into the case. You may have the air circuit to get that heat out, the question is do the others.
Yeah I know it's all going into the case but the setup should provide Pos pressure which will not only exhaust from the rear fan but also through various passages in the case. I'm sure it is dependent on the case for sure but in looking at his temps I don't think there will be any issue running both on intake. The other parts that need to be cooled internally will still have sufficient cooling. The only real temperature sensitive devices in his care are the GPU and CPU. If he was running say a sm951 then ensuring the MB temp to remain at a minimum is a must but since he isn't cooler CPU and GPU IMO should win over increased case temp


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Yeah I know it's all going into the case but the setup should provide Pos pressure which will not only exhaust from the rear fan but also through various passages in the case. I'm sure it is dependent on the case for sure but in looking at his temps I don't think there will be any issue running both on intake. The other parts that need to be cooled internally will still have sufficient cooling. The only real temperature sensitive devices in his care are the GPU and CPU. If he was running say a sm951 then ensuring the MB temp to remain at a minimum is a must but since he isn't cooler CPU and GPU IMO should win over increased case temp


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Hes certainly free to do it any way he wants, and I understand that the effect is more pronounced with the dual GPU setup I am running, but the heat will saturate everything and up the temps in the case many Deg C. Whether that is enough to cause problems, well its different for each system dependent on how good of an air circuit they run. Typically the users of the Kraken setup see 5 to 10C or more improvement.

On a side note, our systems are remarkably similar.
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The Corsair h80i I have actually did perform better pulling air from the outside but in all fairness it was only a 120mm radiator blowing towards the front of my case and not downwards onto my GTX-680 air-cooled boards. The air from the H220 was only warm to the touch but it was enough to increase my video board's temp into the throttle zone. Gawd, those 600 series boards were awful with such a low threshold temperature of only 70°. I am so glad I could finally afford some GTX-980 boards to upgrade to.
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CPU cooler GPU hotter, never had over 52 degrees in GTAV now its 57 and stays there
I think ill revert everythin back to this rolleyes.gif

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CPU cooler GPU hotter, never had over 52 degrees in GTAV now its 57 and stays there
I think ill revert everythin back to this rolleyes.gif

That seems to be the logical approach especially if you are ramming enough fresh air into the case from the front. I have two 120 mm high airflow case fans intaking cool air from outside through the bottom of the case blowing upwards and two lighted 120 mm high airflow case fans blowing in from the front panel. The only other fans inside my case are the two 120 mm Cougar Vortex high static pressure fans exhausting the warm air out the top of the case. Intake fans have the exhaust fans outnumbered 2:1 so I have good airflow with positive air pressure inside my case.
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This may not make sense but this is how i left it wink.gif


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Results look good so I think you found the winning combination of air in and air out.
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