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It works for me now you need to go into 3d global settings and activate the dsr options, ive just been in there to make sure my new monitor is running at 144Hz in games by selecting highest possible refresh rate much smoother now
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Then you do not have swift and g-sync?

DSR does not show up any places with SLI enabled. Looks like many have the same issue, so there is not just a quick fix for the problem.
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Then you do not have swift and g-sync?

DSR does not show up any places with SLI enabled. Looks like many have the same issue, so there is not just a quick fix for the problem.

My monitor is a 144Hz 3D gaming monitor look in my sig rig also try this

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Seeing as I'm about to return my second card for whine, please let me know how it goes. Something about the frequency puts me right into headache mode as well.

This card didn't seem as bad as the first until I actually spent sometime gaming in a non-industrial environment. It's all I could think about.

Yes, my point exactly, and it is costing us dearly in the long run to be returning so many cards, that costs the manufacturers double shipping, refurbishing costs (assuming they will even try), and your time and money as well dealing with it. There is not one reason, NOT to try and nip this thing in the butt. Every cooler manufacturer has direct access to the PCB's design, thus no reason to not try and help the manufacturer silence these chokes, and with something so simple to do. The only problem I see, is that us customers who hate coil noise have not been complaining enough to the actual people who make the design decisions. With a thin layer of acoustical foam, or rubber (or both in layers) directly touching the chokes, the noise would be reduced further, and maybe beyond the detectable levels by the human ear. All the brand name 120hz monitor manufacturers have proven this with a simple piece of foam on their chokes.

If I am forced to use my headphones just to game on my computer, or I am forced to stop GPU folding, no words to express that feeling. One thing I will not be doing is sending my card back, once its installed, that is it, its staying there until it no longer works. Not going to pay a large sum of money for 5 years of noise induced headaches. lol

I wonder if there will be space between the 900 series chokes and the block? If so, we may be able to just develop a rubber shim of appropriate thickness (which may only slightly reduce the noise), with sticky backing, and then just stick it to the chokes (or block) before installing the water block in question. Hmmm

Anyway, please forgive for these posts of mine, as I am hoping others will see the importance of this idea. I think it would even work for all the air cooling users as well. I want the 980 bad, but not if it comes with annoying electrical noise.
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My monitor is a 144Hz 3D gaming monitor look in my sig rig also try this


I can not try this, because I have g-sync monitor and SLI LOL
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I can not try this, because I have g-sync monitor and SLI LOL

Worth a pop lol
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I haven't had the time to mess around with it...but i'll try my best not to disappoint you..lol
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How are your clocks? Debating on a Strix over a classified. Who am I kidding, I'm not debating anything. Still curious. smile.gif

Awesome. thumb.gif What was you ASIC as well?
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Yes, my point exactly, and it is costing us dearly in the long run to be returning so many cards, that costs the manufacturers double shipping, refurbishing costs (assuming they will even try), and your time and money as well dealing with it. There is not one reason, NOT to try and nip this thing in the butt. Every cooler manufacturer has direct access to the PCB's design, thus no reason to not try and help the manufacturer silence these chokes, and with something so simple to do. The only problem I see, is that us customers who hate coil noise have not been complaining enough to the actual people who make the design decisions. With a thin layer of acoustical foam, or rubber (or both in layers) directly touching the chokes, the noise would be reduced further, and maybe beyond the detectable levels by the human ear. All the brand name 120hz monitor manufacturers have proven this with a simple piece of foam on their chokes.

If I am forced to use my headphones just to game on my computer, or I am forced to stop GPU folding, no words to express that feeling. One thing I will not be doing is sending my card back, once its installed, that is it, its staying there until it no longer works. Not going to pay a large sum of money for 5 years of noise induced headaches. lol

I wonder if there will be space between the 900 series chokes and the block? If so, we may be able to just develop a rubber shim of appropriate thickness (which may only slightly reduce the noise), with sticky backing, and then just stick it to the chokes (or block) before installing the water block in question. Hmmm

Anyway, please forgive for these posts of mine, as I am hoping others will see the importance of this idea. I think it would even work for all the air cooling users as well. I want the 980 bad, but not if it comes with annoying electrical noise.

Your totally right, and I personally am never looking forward to dealing with an RMA, but like you said it's hard to pay this much for a five year headache. Whatever it would cost them in manufacturer costs to solve the issue would be greatly offset by fewer cards being returned for sure, especially over the course of a companys lifetime.
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The problem also resolved itself almost completely after a few months. The only time I hear it now is when I am benching older GPU tests that allow the card to get in the neighborhood of 500+ FPS, and it is significantly quieter than when the card was new.
I'm not 100% sure, but that may be due to the past Chokes adhesives (rubber cement was used on the older type of chokes, but just a small amount) warming up and curing better to the actual suspect coils. On these new cards with chokes using concrete cores, I do not see the possibility of a cure stage happening. If its noisy, I think it will always be noisy for these new concrete based chokes, but I could be wrong. I have not been an electronics technician since 2001, when I left Intel, so these things could still have some sort of curing going on. Only time will tell...

Still though, I think rubber (or acoustical foam) regardless is much better at absorbing sound vibrations then concrete is, LOL. Sure the concrete may reduce the noise 30% immediately, but the left over 70% is still making it to the sensitive ears. On a water block, any possible heat will still be absorbed, even through rubber dampening, so imo no worries should be of concern for the manufactures (assuming it is heat that is of their concern).

The reason I keep posting in this thread is because I want this 980 more than any other card. But it needs to be the perfect replacement for my aging 5870, just like my 5870 was the perfect replacement for what I was using before then. My eyes may be getting bad, but my ears are working very good, so electrical noise is not welcome here... lol
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I've tried benching my SLI 980s now for 30 hours running valley and heaven. The noise is just as loud as it was when I started the "burn" test. I'd hate to RMA 84% and 87% asic quality cards. I've never had any with that high of a rating before...

Other than the whine the cards have given me zero problems.
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Well I have spoken to EK, several times now. Trying to get to the water cooling engineers directly is like pulling teeth from an angry Lion. I asked them if they would consider manufacturing the blocks with a small noise dampening rubber insert directly above and slightly touching the chokes since every other card is making noticeable whine at full loads. That is millions of cards affected by simply doing the math. The last time I checked I remember that the reason I got into water cooling was to reduce annoying noises (which were giving me terrible migraines), such as loud whining fans. Now we have whining chokes and I see no reason not to take care of the problem, like so many other manufacturers have done, with simple cost effective dampening techniques. They should address the issue, or at least look into it to see if it makes sense for them to do so.

If they don't want to do it, I think I will buy a half dozen and test to see how deep the copper is directly over the chokes, then source some really good dampening rubber, custom shape it for the job, and then silence these annoying chokes myself. Maybe I can build a custom drill lathe just for the job while I'm at it, lol.

Maybe. It is just me , but no , I got 0 coil whine on my both 980s and I m not the only 1 for sure wink.gif
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