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Gigabyte EUFI bios is terrible. There is no excuse for how bare bones and non intuitive when ASUS can do such a good job.

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Agreed, although I do like Asrocks bios as well.

I agree with both of these. The BIOS is stripped as bare as can be, but it's very good for beginners like I was months ago.
post #2002 of 3195
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Low: full Vdroop
Medium: ~.010mV Vdroop
Standard: full Vdroop
Normal: full Vdroop
Extreme: + ~.010mV increase

Normal / Standard = 100/100 (%) - Auto / Regular on ASUS
Low = 80/100 (%) - Medium on ASUS
Medium = 60/100 (%) - High on ASUS
Extreme = 0/100 (%) - Extreme on ASUS
post #2003 of 3195
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Originally Posted by Scorpion49 
Low: full Vdroop
Medium: ~.010mV Vdroop
Standard: full Vdroop
Normal: full Vdroop
Extreme: + ~.010mV increase

I have no idea what these are actually supposed to do but this is my observation with a multimeter, three of the settings do exactly nothing at all.

When i first saw on the Giga UD3P the "Standard" and "normal" setting, i was scratching my head and thinking "huh, what's the difference?". It's part of the intuitive design that characterizes Gigabyte's UEFI. rolleyes.gif

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Originally Posted by Robenger View Post

Agreed, although I do like Asrocks bios as well.

ANYTHING is better than Gigabyte's UEFI. Even Biostar's UEFI looks amazing! Even Asrock 970 UEFI with cheesy stars background looks better. The only ones that don't see a problem, are those of Gigabyte's sales anb marketing department. They probably all run non Gigabyte motherboards, so they don't notice. biggrin.gif The BIOS team is all drunk, so they don't see anything wrong either.
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post #2004 of 3195
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I agree with both of these. The BIOS is stripped as bare as can be, but it's very good for beginners like I was months ago.


I can see your point. My two ROG board bios have more voltage settings than you can shake a stick at. Probably why I don't use them lol!
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Normal / Standard = 100/100 (%) - Auto / Regular on ASUS
Low = 80/100 (%) - Medium on ASUS
Medium = 60/100 (%) - High on ASUS
Extreme = 0/100 (%) - Extreme on ASUS

So 100% is basically LLC off? Based on a set 1.400V do these look correct? I'm measuring with my meter at one of the CPU phase caps on the back of the board.

Auto - 1.320V
Normal - 1.320V
Standard - 1.320V
Low - 1.320V
Medium - 1.392V
Extreme - 1.410V

Regardless, I can't get a stable OC with this chip. It ran P95 for 18 hours at 4400mhz but the second I went to do Windows updates it hard-locked so badly I had to shut the PSU off.
post #2006 of 3195
IMO load-line should never be disabled completely as it causes the voltage to overshoot.
The overshoot comes from the infrastructure specification, which requires the Vmin to be VID + 10mV, Vavg to be VID +35mV and Vmax to be VID + 60mV. On Kaveri / Godavari the 60% settings has worked best for me.
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IMO load-line should never be disabled completely as it causes the voltage to overshoot.
The overshoot comes from the infrastructure specification, which requires the Vmin to be VID + 10mV, Vavg to be VID +35mV and Vmax to be VID + 60mV. On Kaveri / Godavari the 60% settings has worked best for me.

I agree with you (the 60%/ Medium setting is the only one that has actually worked at all for me) I was just trying to decide if I want to go back to F6 BIOS if the F7 might be bugged. The replacement board they sent me shipped with F7 on it and based on my observations it may not be entirely bug-free.

I'm about to move back to the Asus board and re-do my testing there.
post #2008 of 3195
So now I'm back to square one. I switched the chip over to the Asus board and put the water loop back together only to find that the brand new OCZ Arc 100 480GB I've been using for testing on this CPU has died. I can't figure out if the I/O errors that Kaveri likes to generate with insufficient voltage killed the drive, or the drive was bad already and that was causing all of the instabilities. Chicken or the egg I guess.

Now I've used an ancient WD 320GB drive from 2006 that I don't care if it dies, and the system feels much better and more responsive, not so many micro-freezes (this is really saying something comparing a drive this slow to an SSD). This has me leaning towards the drive having been bad and causing all of the problems to begin with.
post #2009 of 3195
Scorpion,
I've got my not-so-good 860 in my asus plus board on the bench right now. I'm waiting for the chance to get a different cooler (stock is on it right now) and I'd be game for going setting for setting with you and compare notes. Maybe I'll pop over to best buy and pick up a cheap-o AIO rather than making a 100 mile trip to microcenter or fry's.
post #2010 of 3195
hello everyone. So I got mine 860k 7 months ago and I must say it's a great price/performance ratio.
After some time spent on tweaking I am stable @4.4 GHz. Nothing spectacular( I guess my chip isn't supeclocker) but a large noticeable improvement over stock 3.7. I am using Asus A88x-gamer mobo which is quite good imo( I went thru the whole thread and there isn't much abiut that mobo which is surprising for me), voltage is a bit high, 4.4 GHz @ 1.5v but it runs really cool(max temp 50 deg on Corsair H90) and max power draw only 97.8 Watt. NB @2000 MHz with 1.19v. Ram 2x4Gb HyperX Savage 2400MHz with auto timings.
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