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Hello everyone, i just make registration to be part of Great Overclock.net community.

I am new to OC CPU. I read almost 200 pages of this thread, but because i am new to OC CPU some things are not clear for me.
Here is my PC Specs:

CPU: Atlon x4 860k with stock cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H rev.3.1
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 950 OC
RAM: 8GB ADATA 1600
PSU: 500W Deep Cool
Case Zalman T3 ( The case has 3 slots for 120mm case fans (two on the side panel,one in front panel) i put all of them to intake air in the case. the 4th default one is outtake airflow at the back of case.
One of the side panel fans is make good airflow at CPU and mobo the other at GPU and mobo.
Bios F6
I want to OC my 860k to about 4.2- 4.4Ghz
Can i OC to 4.2 with stock cooler or i need after market one ? I read that some people use Gigabyte easy tune app to OC their CPU to medium 4.2ghz. Is it OK to use that app or any other that can OC CPU ?
Also if i use bios to OC my cpu what bios version is most stable for OC ? Now i am with F6 version.
I need some step by step tutorial or noob friendly video how to OC 860k with GA-F2A88XM-D3H smile.gif

Thanks in advance for your Help.
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Originally Posted by Bobby1776 View Post

Hello everyone, i just make registration to be part of Great Overclock.net community.

I am new to OC CPU. I read almost 200 pages of this thread, but because i am new to OC CPU some things are not clear for me.
Here is my PC Specs:

CPU: Atlon x4 860k with stock cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H rev.3.1
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 950 OC
RAM: 8GB ADATA 1600
PSU: 500W Deep Cool
Case Zalman T3 ( The case has 3 slots for 120mm case fans (two on the side panel,one in front panel) i put all of them to intake air in the case. the 4th default one is outtake airflow at the back of case.
One of the side panel fans is make good airflow at CPU and mobo the other at GPU and mobo.
Bios F6
I want to OC my 860k to about 4.2- 4.4Ghz
Can i OC to 4.2 with stock cooler or i need after market one ? I read that some people use Gigabyte easy tune app to OC their CPU to medium 4.2ghz. Is it OK to use that app or any other that can OC CPU ?
Also if i use bios to OC my cpu what bios version is most stable for OC ? Now i am with F6 version.
I need some step by step tutorial or noob friendly video how to OC 860k with GA-F2A88XM-D3H smile.gif

Thanks in advance for your Help.
You can make things a lot easier by going into your user control panel here and changing from 10 comments per thread to 50 or 100. If you set it for 100, this thread is only 25 pages rather than 250.

You're probably not going to get 4.4 GHz on that motherboard, because it's a 4+1 phase board with no heatsinks on the VRM's. It's a reliable board, but not enthusiast-class. About 4.2 would be the best you might get, maybe a little more if you get some cheap heatsinks for the VRM's and make sure you have airflow around that area of the board (sounds like you have that covered). The Giga app might be the best way to go, because it won't OC your system beyond what it can handle. If you want to do it manually, just raise the multiplier in increments of one, test for stability using P95 for several hours, and if it passes, bump it up again. If it's unstable, raise the voltage. And once you get past 4.1 GHz, watch for thermal throttling.

Don't trust the stock cooler beyond the turbo speed of 4.0 GHz. The 860K stock cooler is pretty crappy. Good thing is that a cheap 212 Evo or something in its class is more than enough for most 860K's no matter how far you OC, within reason.
     
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post #2483 of 3195
Welcome. Right off the bat, upgrade your cooling. No need to go all in with a watercooling solution. Air will do just fine. Get what your budget allows. I use a Noctua NH-U14S and it has never even been close to an issue with heat. Others use a Hyper212 (with mixed results).
post #2484 of 3195
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Originally Posted by jsc1973 View Post

You can make things a lot easier by going into your user control panel here and changing from 10 comments per thread to 50 or 100. If you set it for 100, this thread is only 25 pages rather than 250.

You're probably not going to get 4.4 GHz on that motherboard, because it's a 4+1 phase board with no heatsinks on the VRM's. It's a reliable board, but not enthusiast-class. About 4.2 would be the best you might get, maybe a little more if you get some cheap heatsinks for the VRM's and make sure you have airflow around that area of the board (sounds like you have that covered). The Giga app might be the best way to go, because it won't OC your system beyond what it can handle. If you want to do it manually, just raise the multiplier in increments of one, test for stability using P95 for several hours, and if it passes, bump it up again. If it's unstable, raise the voltage. And once you get past 4.1 GHz, watch for thermal throttling.

Don't trust the stock cooler beyond the turbo speed of 4.0 GHz. The 860K stock cooler is pretty crappy. Good thing is that a cheap 212 Evo or something in its class is more than enough for most 860K's no matter how far you OC, within reason.

Hello, Many Thanks for your Help and answer.
Yes i think that 4,2 Ghz will be just fine for me, or little bit more 4,3 Ghz I know that my mobo is nothing special i build my first Budget Gaming PC after i quit xbox360 gaming.
I saw some cheap VRM heatsinks in Aliexpress. The problem with after market CPU Cooler is that my case is 189 x 427.5 x 364mm and there is no enough space for normal CPU Fan. Can you recomended some CPU cooler that will fit in my case ?
I have problems with side panel fan. The Standard 120mm fans are 25mm and there was no room for that fan, because of GPU. I was need to find slim 120mm/15mm. that fit just perfect.
About the Giga app there is 3 options for Auto OC:
1. Light - 4.1 Ghz
2. Medium - 4.2 Ghz
3. Extreme -4.3 Ghz

I am planing to choose 2.Medium. But read that people has problems after using that app.( cant downgrade to normal speeds etc.) I hope that is just some rumors. So i need some feedback about that app first to be sure that everything will be OK.
Thanks again for the tips and Help
I really appreciate it
You didnt say anything about BIOS version
post #2485 of 3195
I haven't used that motherboard on a build in a while, so you might want to create a thread in the "AMD Motherboards" section and ask. I'm sure there have been multiple revisions of the BIOS to come out since I last built with it.
     
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Kingston V300 Toshiba 2.5" laptop HDD, 1TB Micron C300 SSD Generic 2TB HDD WL2000GSA1672 (external) 
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Kingston V300 Toshiba 2.5" laptop HDD, 1TB Micron C300 SSD Generic 2TB HDD WL2000GSA1672 (external) 
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post #2486 of 3195
Hey guys, while I'm here, let me drop the bench videos from Rise of the Tomb Raider.

1080P: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GegAfaqr4s
900P: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X6zi0cwEdk
Xbox One settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1mzbEwkv-w

I progressed a bit farther and I'm at the Soviet installation. This area is much more demanding. At 1080P, I can maintain an unstable 30FPS lock. I installed Radeon drivers 16.2 and that's stabilized the CPU usage a bit, but it's still high, and encoding overhead brings it back to max utilization.

W/o a doubt the most demanding game I've ever ran with the 860K. Yes, Project Cars and Dead Rising 3 were a much bigger mess FPS-wise (as in unplayable), but that's b/c those games are poorly coded. ROTTR is a different story. The performance optimizations that are suited for AMD were stripped for DX11 and as a result, the hardware has to work harder for a higher framerate.

The silver lining is that a DX12 patch is coming and that should resolve multithread with the GPU and reduce overhead on CPU. Another thing is that my rig (designed to be console equivalent) is able to maintain console settings even in the demanding areas. Where an i3 have failed, the 860K continues to chug along and provides consistent performance.
post #2487 of 3195
Gonna be interesting to see how the 860k and other similar CPU's fare on the upcoming Deus Ex game. It will have DX12 support.
post #2488 of 3195
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Gonna be interesting to see how the 860k and other similar CPU's fare on the upcoming Deus Ex game. It will have DX12 support.
860K should do A LOT better with DX12 games. The decreased CPU overhead combined with multithreading for the GPU drivers should take a heavy load off.
post #2489 of 3195
Ok, if i use Easy Tune for OC 860k do i need to turn off Turbo and other Power saving functions in Bios ? Or the app will do that automatically.

Thanks
post #2490 of 3195
I'm thinking about replacing my wife's old laptop. Seems to be running terrible since upgrading to windows 10. This is the old laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834200347 .

So I need an opinion, this old one sucks battery life and runs terrible from the HDD. It does have really good speakers.

I was thinking of upgrading her to an APU, thinking about the 8800p. She doesn't really game. Is there someone here who could recommend a decent APU laptop with 1080 screen, 500+ SSD, and good speakers? No dedicated GPU please.
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