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For me the Crossblade was simply cheaper by a couple of euros , currently got my 860k running on 4.2 ghz , didnt get higher stable yet on the stock cooler.
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I agree with Yoo. With Direct X 12 and how it handles multi threading, I wonder how the Athlon series will fare paired with high end GPU. Makes me wonder if going for the FX series was a wiser choice for future proof wise
DX12 isn't the crucial part of the equation, it's how many simultaneous threads that the game developer can or will code their game to run. And they're not likely, even if they actually care to optimize for multiple cores, that they're going to code for more than four threads anytime soon. The "sweet spot" for gaming rigs these days is an Intel i5, a 4c/4t CPU. This is why recent games are being targeted for four threads and don't always run optimally on Pentium G3258. Since an 860K is already 4c/4t, a game programmed for four threads isn't going to be gimped by running on one.

Anything that can support more than four simultaneous threads is still going to run on a quad-core. There are only so many tasks that a game can off-load to an extra core, and there would be very little time, even on totally optimized code, when eight threads would ever be active at once. A game is going to care more about IPC and FP performance, both of which are a lot better on a Steamroller core than a Piledriver core. And by the time we might see anything that can actually run on six or eight threads and max them out, no one's going want to run an FX processor because it's going to be seriously obsolete. We'll probably be three or four generations of CPU's beyond where we are now. At least.

DX12 is more about reducing overhead between the hardware and the software as it's about better running across multiple cores. The closer to the metal that a game can run, without adding complex software layers between the game and the hardware, the better. This is why games are playable on weak console hardware--they're able to run closer to the metal. This was the whole idea behind Mantle, and it's also the idea behind DX12 and Vulkan.
     
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I love my A88X-Pro, it's the best board I've ever had by a mile. Solid as a rock and equal in capability to anything else in FM2+. The main reason it doesn't get mentioned so often, apart from price, is that supplies of it were so patchy in the first months of FM2+. Nowadays you can find it at a price which should make it the first choice for anyone with an APU - from Trinity onwards.

About the only thing I can say against the a88x-Pro is that there is no UEFI setting to turn off the beeping complaint I get every time I start my machine from having nothing hooked up to the onboard fan headers (I use nothing but molex connectors to power my fans and I run them at 100% all the time, so no need to plug in the PWM header). Well that and it has no DDR3-2666 setting (the Crossblade Ranger does).

Otherwise, awesome board.
Edited by drmrlordx - 3/28/15 at 12:30pm
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Thanks for the explaination. Never really understood APIs lol.
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I love my A88X-Pro, it's the best board I've ever had by a mile. Solid as a rock and equal in capability to anything else in FM2+. The main reason it doesn't get mentioned so often, apart from price, is that supplies of it were so patchy in the first months of FM2+. Nowadays you can find it at a price which should make it the first choice for anyone with an APU - from Trinity onwards.


I got mine on eBay. Basically brand spanking new. $51!
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About the only thing I can say against the a88x-Pro is that there is no UEFI setting to turn off the beeping complaint I get every time I start my machine from having nothing hooked up to the onboard fan headers (I use nothing but molex connectors to power my fans and I run them at 100% all the time, so no need to plug in the PWM header). Well that and it has no DDR3-2666 setting (the Crossblade Ranger does).

Otherwise, awesome board.

Whats wrong with the CPU / CHA_FANx "ignore" option?
The DDR-2666 setting = set the BCLK to 111MHz.
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Thanks for the explaination. Never really understood API. So does the API take away some of the bottleneck with such as a 860K and 970?
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Whats wrong with the CPU / CHA_FANx "ignore" option?

Maybe I'm just blind, but I don't see it. I do see an option to halt the boot on fan error (I have that option disabled), but nothing to stop it from going beeeeeeeeeeeep beep beep and leaving an error message.
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The DDR-2666 setting = set the BCLK to 111MHz.

Yeahhhhh been there, done that, unfortunately at any bclk above 100 it's hard for me to get my NB stable above ~1900 mhz. Always a tradeoff. Having the DDR3-2666 option in the UEFI would give me a little more flexibility. It's not that big of a deal.
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Maybe I'm just blind, but I don't see it. I do see an option to halt the boot on fan error (I have that option disabled), but nothing to stop it from going beeeeeeeeeeeep beep beep and leaving an error message.
     
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Originally Posted by drmrlordx View Post

Yeahhhhh been there, done that, unfortunately at any bclk above 100 it's hard for me to get my NB stable above ~1900 mhz. Always a tradeoff. Having the DDR3-2666 option in the UEFI would give me a little more flexibility. It's not that big of a deal.

There is no true DDR-2666 option in Crossblade either.
2666 is always either 111MHz (2400) or 125MHz (2133) on all APUs as 2400MHz is the highest ratio they support.
Exactly the same thing on both of the boards.
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