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I had the same problem with trying to find a cooler (twin tower) that I liked the look of that would also fit. I almost decided on the dx series of Phanteks. Ultimately, I decided to install the H105 with the Noctua F12 fans (not the first and certainly won't be the last with this setup). I couldn't be happier - completely silent!

Megahalems look pretty good imho, except maybe the transformers styling on top. Basically a twin tower arranged side by side.



Fit matx boards easily.


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I have put my setup together with this case. I can confirm, although I don't have the drive config this way, that as far as space goes, you won't have ANY problem fitting a 6 drive config in here. There are two hanger hdd cages that hold 4 hdd each. There is a big cutout in the front that you can route your sata through and the psu is right below the hdd cages. The two issue you may have is heat with that many hdd being right on top of each other and a matx mobo that supports 6/8 sata connectors.

Oh that's right the hdd cages hold 4 each not 5. Heat-wise those cages have better spacing than bay hdd adapters I've used that don't have heat issues, like the Evercool Armor.

As for sata ports you can get a 2 port Asmedia 1061 pci card for $15. That's the same controller you'd get on atx boards that add to the chipset sata count and a matx board can fit them along with a gpu.
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Taem, yea the Megahelms does look pretty good in design but, for someone coming from the 212 Evo, the very generic silver heatsink is boring to me. That was one of the selling points for Phanteks for me. (I know, its the stupid little things that erk me.)

As for the hdd cages, they are good spacing wise. I'm just saying in general when you have that many hdd in a setup close together you may have issues, especially since you can't throw fans in the top of that side if you have the cages hanging. There are most certainly add-on cards for additional sata ports, however, just the motherboard MAY be an issue.
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Ordered it last night, and should get it by Friday. My concern isn't spacing for cooling because I will be using WD Red drives that have been nice and cool in one of the 3 to 4 Optical bay to hard drive bay converters. I am just concerned with the power supply cables, since the SATA plugs are usually not spaced the same as the space between the drives will be. The more drives there are, the closer together they are, and that forces the power cables to bend abnormally and stress the plastic on the hard drive's SATA plug. However, if there are two other slots, I am only forced to use 4 of the hanging slots (although I would rather have them all fit their comfortably), and that will give me good clearance between drives....enough that I may not have to worry at all about the room for cables above the power supply.
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I think that is the general issue with angled connectors. I never understood why they angled them as it doesn't particularly secure the connection any better than straight cables would. Also, the flex, or lack thereof, of power supply cables in general has me confused.
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Ordered it last night, and should get it by Friday. My concern isn't spacing for cooling because I will be using WD Red drives that have been nice and cool in one of the 3 to 4 Optical bay to hard drive bay converters. I am just concerned with the power supply cables, since the SATA plugs are usually not spaced the same as the space between the drives will be. The more drives there are, the closer together they are, and that forces the power cables to bend abnormally and stress the plastic on the hard drive's SATA plug. However, if there are two other slots, I am only forced to use 4 of the hanging slots (although I would rather have them all fit their comfortably), and that will give me good clearance between drives....enough that I may not have to worry at all about the room for cables above the power supply.

You can just get some sata power extension cables



cost $4, $5 at places like Amazon or Newegg, and I'm sure places like Monoprice would have them for half the price. These are much more flexible than the stiff flat ribbon cables that come with psus. You can even get multi connector cables

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Might be a worthwhile investment if you're getting $300 6tb drives, or even $200 4tb hdds and you're worried about damaging the ports on the drives. Because you're right, while there's tons of space for cables, the area where cables actually plug into the drives is rather cramped.
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post #16 of 32
Some would say it is way too big for matx case. Too much space reserved for drives.
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Some would say it is way too big for matx case. Too much space reserved for drives.

For me that's the appeal. It really does fill a niche, I do not know of another matx case that fits so many hdds. The space is utilized to near perfect efficiency, I can't see how they could make it smaller and still fit 8 hdds.

But keep in mind you don't have to put hdds there. Even for a matx build for dual gpu, that chamber can fit a second 240 rad and pump and res, and thermally isolates the psu, while giving you cable management space. So it makes sense for a water cooled dual gpu build also and gives you a case that's half the size of a mid tower.

If you don't need any of that there's the Node 304 for itx.
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post #18 of 32
My only concern about this case, is the front panel... Its too blank, and simple, and looks sad...

The case would easy allow a 5.25 space, or even two, for fan controlling.
The Corsair air 240's front panel is much better, since you can remove it without cabling, to simply acces the dust fitlers. And with corsairs case, you can even go horizontal mb, with top window, wich is awesome.
I also dont like the sideways usb's... i build my case in to to furniture (355x355 space), but even if this fits, its simply not ideal.. But then again, the Node is bigger, allowing for much better airflow, and interior...
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You would need to appreciate a very clean look to appreciate the front panel of this case. More options is not necessarily always better. If they added a 5.25" bay, that would defeat a lot of the purpose of this case and would also not be practical because there is really no room for a cd-rom to protrude into the case. (I know you are talking fan controller, but manufacturers install 5.25" for the majority which means cd-rom.)

The Corsair 240 is nice, but it is also WAY too flimsy of a build overall. The cabling built into the front panel is a slight pain, but not nearly as bad as it looks at first glance. You can also access the dust filters from the opening slot on the bottom of the panel. In a way, I kind of wish they would have done the horizontal mb like the 240, but this case not being symmetrical in design (not shape), such as the 240 is with the open air design all around, it's no surprise that they weren't aiming for the dual-positioning. Overall though, I would take this case over the 240 any day of the week (and being that the 240 is one of the very few alternatives to this, I did consider it as well) because it is built 100x better. I do like Corsair very much, they just need to come up on their build quality of cases.

The one thing that I undoubtedly agree on is the just plain BAD choice of usb placement. I'm not sure what they were thinking when putting them on the entirely opposite side of the case from the window. This way, if you want to see the inside of your setup you have to strain yourself to reach around and plug into the ports if you need to use them. This is one of the cases that they should not have veered from commonplace with front connector placement and left them on top of the case. An aside, my Juiced 10-port usb hub takes care of this issue however.
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You would need to appreciate a very clean look to appreciate the front panel of this case. More options is not necessarily always better. If they added a 5.25" bay, that would defeat a lot of the purpose of this case and would also not be practical because there is really no room for a cd-rom to protrude into the case. (I know you are talking fan controller, but manufacturers install 5.25" for the majority which means cd-rom.)

The Corsair 240 is nice, but it is also WAY too flimsy of a build overall. The cabling built into the front panel is a slight pain, but not nearly as bad as it looks at first glance. You can also access the dust filters from the opening slot on the bottom of the panel. In a way, I kind of wish they would have done the horizontal mb like the 240, but this case not being symmetrical in design (not shape), such as the 240 is with the open air design all around, it's no surprise that they weren't aiming for the dual-positioning. Overall though, I would take this case over the 240 any day of the week (and being that the 240 is one of the very few alternatives to this, I did consider it as well) because it is built 100x better. I do like Corsair very much, they just need to come up on their build quality of cases.

The one thing that I undoubtedly agree on is the just plain BAD choice of usb placement. I'm not sure what they were thinking when putting them on the entirely opposite side of the case from the window. This way, if you want to see the inside of your setup you have to strain yourself to reach around and plug into the ports if you need to use them. This is one of the cases that they should not have veered from commonplace with front connector placement and left them on top of the case. An aside, my Juiced 10-port usb hub takes care of this issue however.

Did you see the Antec ISK600M? That kombines the space in the Node with the horizontal mb of the air 240 smile.gif I have really high expectations for that case... but i think it wont be as high quality. When it was showcased, i didnt see any dust filters for example.
(with a similar boring front panel tough smile.gif)
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