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I guess that depends on if you're happy with marginal overclocks, or if you really want to push them..... I'd never use one because they don't overclock as high as other offerings at the same price point....pretty simple.

If the framerate gains continued to scale with the overclock, then it would be more important. But seeing as the jump from 1506 to 1557 generally nets you about 1-2 fps, its really not that important for the card to be a champion overclocker.

If your whole purpose of owning a card is overclocking it and benching, then you wouldn't be going after the Strix anyways since you'd ultimately be limited by the single 8-pin connector. So bashing a card for not being good at something it wasn't necessarily built to be good at, doesn't really make sense. The Strix series is more geared towards lower temps and silence. thumb.gif
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If the framerate gains continued to scale with the overclock, then it would be more important. But seeing as the jump from 1506 to 1557 generally nets you about 1-2 fps, its really not that important for the card to be a champion overclocker.

If your whole purpose of owning a card is overclocking it and benching, then you wouldn't be going after the Strix anyways since you'd ultimately be limited by the single 8-pin connector. So bashing a card for not being good at something it wasn't necessarily built to be good at, doesn't really make sense. The Strix series is more geared towards lower temps and silence. thumb.gif

Yeah...maybe. But I guess I envision the guys in an overclocking forums are looking for a little bit more than "plug and play". /shrug Maybe I'm wrong.

But...1 to 2 fps? Yeah, not so sure about that. The one on the right, is with the stock bios and at 1518 on the core. The one on the right is with a custom bios and at 1620 on the core. They still scale pretty good above 1500..... I'll take 10 extra fps any day.

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Vellinious,
Do you mind posting your stock bios, please. I think I might have flash the scc 2.0+ bios last night....vodka and tequila = flashing s**t you shouldn't
     
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Any 4K players out there with a 970SLI???

Any regrets?
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Originally Posted by Vellinious View Post

Yeah...maybe. But I guess I envision the guys in an overclocking forums are looking for a little bit more than "plug and play". /shrug Maybe I'm wrong.

But...1 to 2 fps? Yeah, not so sure about that. The one on the right, is with the stock bios and at 1518 on the core. The one on the right is with a custom bios and at 1620 on the core. They still scale pretty good above 1500..... I'll take 10 extra fps any day.
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Have you missed the various threads of this forum that are all about people underclocking their cards? The Strix is by no means ever going to be a top overclocking card, which is BLATANTLY apparent by the presence of a single 8-pin power connector - this is something that any serious overclocker would have already considered. We all can agree that if you want to have more power to play with, you need to have the ability to deliver that power to the card.So like I said, bashing the card for not doing something it wasn't even really built to do, is pointless. It's like being upset that the brand new Ford Focus isn't breaking land-speed records straight off the lot.

In terms of the amount of power that can be potentially be delivered:
Just PCI-E slot power (lowest amount) < 1x 6-pin < 1x 8-pin < 2x 6-pin < 2x 8-pin (highest amount)

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I'll probably have an easier time believing what you're saying when the screenshots show the correct information. I'm seeing the difference in the scores, but there's no part that shows the frequencies that you're saying the benches were run at. So for the sake of this discussion right here, that screenshot is fairly irrelevant.
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Vellinious,
Do you mind posting your stock bios, please. I think I might have flash the scc 2.0+ bios last night....vodka and tequila = flashing s**t you shouldn't

Here's the stock one - SSC ACX 2.0 non-"+" model. thumb.gif

GM204.zip 136k .zip file
Edited by blaze2210 - 10/9/15 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by blaze2210 View Post

Have you missed the various threads of this forum that are all about people underclocking their cards? The Strix is by no means ever going to be a top overclocking card, which is BLATANTLY apparent by the presence of a single 8-pin power connector - this is something that any serious overclocker would have already considered. We all can agree that if you want to have more power to play with, you need to have the ability to deliver that power to the card.So like I said, bashing the card for not doing something it wasn't even really built to do, is pointless. It's like being upset that the brand new Ford Focus isn't breaking land-speed records straight off the lot.

In terms of the amount of power that can be potentially be delivered:
Just PCI-E slot power (lowest amount) < 1x 6-pin < 1x 8-pin < 2x 6-pin < 2x 8-pin (highest amount)

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I'll probably have an easier time believing what you're saying when the screenshots show the correct information. I'm seeing the difference in the scores, but there's no part that shows the frequencies that you're saying the benches were run at. So for the sake of this discussion right here, that screenshot is fairly irrelevant.
Here's the stock one - SSC ACX 2.0 non-"+" model. thumb.gif

GM204.zip 136k .zip file

Yeah, Firestrike hardly ever reads the clocks right. Like this SLI run. This is with the cores set at 1607. Firestrike is showing the core clocks at 1366....there's not a pair of 970s in this world that's going to pull those graphics scores at 1366....

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5963608

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Yeah, Firestrike hardly ever reads the clocks right. Like this SLI run. This is with the cores set at 1607. Firestrike is showing the core clocks at 1366....there's not a pair of 970s in this world that's going to pull those graphics scores at 1366....

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5963608
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Yeah, Firestrike has a bunch of weird little quirks. I always get the Time Incorrect error, since I can't bear to watch the demo videos. biggrin.gif What I'm saying is that there's definitely a point of diminishing returns when you pass 1500mhz.
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mahalo braddah

No worries! I have it saved in multiple locations - just in case.... thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by blaze2210 View Post

Yeah, Firestrike has a bunch of weird little quirks. I always get the Time Incorrect error, since I can't bear to watch the demo videos. biggrin.gif What I'm saying is that there's definitely a point of diminishing returns when you pass 1500mhz.

Well, yeah...Maxwell doesn't scale well past 1.262 or 1.268v...there are always diminishing returns. I just like overclocking, and find cards that can't do it as...well...worthless. I guess I just assume everyone should overclock. /shrug

Found the screenshot for the 12k Firestrike run. It was hiding in imgur. Still looking for the baseline screenie.


Edited by Vellinious - 10/9/15 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by iARDAs View Post

Any 4K players out there with a 970SLI???

Any regrets?

I ran Dragon Age Inquisition in 4k with most settings on ultra. Worked really well. The issue for me was the fact that It would only run 30fps. I'm using a TV so I have to use vsync. I prefer 60fps, so ive been playing Witcher 3 in 1080 with all settings maxed and the cards don't even break a sweat. I have em overclocked and water-cooled (numbers in sig.) That being said, If your getting tem new I would suggest thinking of getting a 980Ti as an alternative. Same-ish price/performance, and don't have to deal with SLI power and new game issues.
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