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Go into the MSConfig screen, pretty self-explanatory after that. thumb.gif

If not, check this out: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-boot-into-windows-8.1-safe-mode-guide/

Thanks man, that did the trick thumb.gif
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Go into the MSConfig screen, pretty self-explanatory after that. thumb.gif

If not, check this out: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-boot-into-windows-8.1-safe-mode-guide/

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If you can boot into safe mode (f8) while booting pc., then you can open AB, settings, "do not start with windows." flash original bios, reboot. Good luck after you get home.

Its not F8, that's the motherboard boot selector. After a few attempts to start i needed to restore and so i could boot in to save mode via advanced settings.


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Go into the MSConfig screen, pretty self-explanatory after that. thumb.gif

If not, check this out: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-boot-into-windows-8.1-safe-mode-guide/

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Did you make sure that the BIOS you were flashing is actually for your card (exact brand and model)? I don't see how an improper flash could have caused those issues with Windows loading. I've flashed my 970's BIOS probably close to 100 times, and haven't encountered this issue.

Yes it was an copy of my stock bios which i modded and flashed, that's why i told the other guy i was not that keen on flashing his EVGA bios to my MSI card.
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Go into the MSConfig screen, pretty self-explanatory after that. thumb.gif

If not, check this out: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-boot-into-windows-8.1-safe-mode-guide/

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Its more likely when you tried to repair windows something changed. I learned that hard way that when windows says you need to repair, it's usually something that has nothing to do with windows. You will probably have to do a fresh install to get back to how it was.

Had that with the crappy Windows 7 numerous times when i was tweaking my overclock.. never had any problems with W8.1 tho.
I will run sfc /scannow and if that not fixes the issues i will do an repair install via my USB drive.
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I'd boot into safe mode again, open CMD as administrator, and type the command - sfc /scannow

It should find and repair and errors in the OS. It's actually not a fault in Windows, its called a user-error. You shouldn't blame Windows tongue.gif

What do you mean by this? I did nothing wrong.. the flash was successful but Windows failed to boot.. There was nothing extreme in the bios that may cause these problems.
I also see, even with my stock bios, that i get weird reading from my card like 135 MHz core and 162 MHz memory which it didn't do before.. When i put a load on the GPU it shows the correct values.

I also saw that when i set the power limit and TDP to 300 watts i couldn't adjust it in Afterburner which other people could.. something strange is going on here i tell you.

I use maxwell bios Tweaker v1.36 and NVFlash_Certs_Bypassed_v5.227_x64 which i both downloaded from this site: http://www.overclock.net/t/1521334/official-nvflash-with-certificate-checks-bypassed-for-gtx-950-960-970-980-980ti-titan-x
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If you read DeathAngel's post, he recommended that you use his BIOS as a reference - meaning that you can look at the settings that are used in his BIOS and apply some of them to your own. He certainly did not recommend that you flash the EVGA BIOS to your MSI card. Basically, if your card has the same power connections as another's (2x 6-pins, 1x 8-pin and 1x 6-pin, etc), then you can generally use the Power and Voltage Tables from that other card for yours.

I have done this many times myself with success. You just need to make sure that your card is similar. thumb.gif
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What do you mean by this? I did nothing wrong.. the flash was successful but Windows failed to boot.. There was nothing extreme in the bios that may cause these problems.
I also see, even with my stock bios, that i get weird reading from my card like 135 MHz core and 162 MHz memory which it didn't do before.. When i put a load on the GPU it shows the correct values.

I also saw that when i set the power limit and TDP to 300 watts i couldn't adjust it in Afterburner which other people could.. something strange is going on here i tell you.

I use maxwell bios Tweaker v1.36 and NVFlash_Certs_Bypassed_v5.227_x64 which i both downloaded from this site: http://www.overclock.net/t/1521334/official-nvflash-with-certificate-checks-bypassed-for-gtx-950-960-970-980-980ti-titan-x

Those low clock speeds are normal for the card idling. When you set both of those Power Limit values in the BIOS to the same amount, then you're eliminating the ability to change that from AB. So if you wanted to be able to use the slider in AB, you'd need to set different values - like you see below.


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I have had a Gigabyte GTX970 Gaming edition since May time. Attached screenshot has happened a few times recently when powering on the PC.

Is this likely caused by the GPU?


I suggest a couple of things (the solutions are not necessarily in any particular order, I suggest that you attempt whatever you find to be easiest first):

Test a different device with your display panel, perhaps another computer, either laptop or desktop, a gaming console, or perhaps if you have an MHL cable you can connect a phone (android) or an HDMI adapter for iPhone (this is assuming that your display uses HDMI), or anything at all that has the necessary output that you require.

If you have not already done so, Make sure to reseat the cables properly.

Try a different GPU, if available (I am confident that you probably have an integrated graphics solution within your CPU, your motherboard should have some video outputs, at least if it is reasonably modern)...

Try a different display panel, if you have one. Also, a television would work just the same if you use the HDMI output that the motherboard will most certainly have. Unfortunately you do not have any sort of rig listed anywhere so that I can see what components you are rocking, certainly something to consider doing...

Try some different cables. Though I personally doubt it would be the cables, it is most definitely a possible cause.

If none of these suggestions resolve the issue, please respond here or PM me and we can discuss it there (I do not often check my subscription notifications, so you'll want to make sure that you quote me in your response).

I do bid you good luck in sorting out the issue, and hopefully one of the above suggestions gets you sorted out.

One thing I had forgotten to ask,
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6669.zip 136k .zip file

I think I may have found a way around the power limit on these weird a$$ cards.



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What do you mean by this? I did nothing wrong.. the flash was successful but Windows failed to boot.. There was nothing extreme in the bios that may cause these problems.
I also see, even with my stock bios, that i get weird reading from my card like 135 MHz core and 162 MHz memory which it didn't do before.. When i put a load on the GPU it shows the correct values.

I also saw that when i set the power limit and TDP to 300 watts i couldn't adjust it in Afterburner which other people could.. something strange is going on here i tell you.

I use maxwell bios Tweaker v1.36 and NVFlash_Certs_Bypassed_v5.227_x64 which i both downloaded from this site: http://www.overclock.net/t/1521334/official-nvflash-with-certificate-checks-bypassed-for-gtx-950-960-970-980-980ti-titan-x

You successfully flashed a BIOS correctly the first time. It worked fine. Then you flashed another BIOS and it got bricked. I don't want to spend the time reading all your posts, but you were even worried you'd brick the card (not 100% sure you'd successfully mod the BIOS). I don't mean any offense, but its a user error. Only reason I say that is cuz you want to blame the maxwell editor and said you would never do this again if you knew this would happen. Just gotta be careful and ask questions + double check your changes. I'm sure you're capable of doing it successfully. Just don't refuse to release some hidden potential in your card cuz you think its the programs fault.
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Also, post your changes before flashing. One of us can look it over just in case something is off.
     
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You successfully flashed a BIOS correctly the first time. It worked fine. Then you flashed another BIOS and it got bricked. I don't want to spend the time reading all your posts, but you were even worried you'd brick the card (not 100% sure you'd successfully mod the BIOS). I don't mean any offense, but its a user error. Only reason I say that is cuz you want to blame the maxwell editor and said you would never do this again if you knew this would happen. Just gotta be careful and ask questions + double check your changes. I'm sure you're capable of doing it successfully. Just don't refuse to release some hidden potential in your card cuz you think its the programs fault.

I understand and you are absolutely right. The strange part is that i have no idea what i did wrong. I modded my stock bios and the only thing i did was set the power limit and TDP to 300 watts..
This is how i did it step by step:

1: change bios in maxwell bios tweaker v1.36 and saved the .rom file

2: disabled display driver

3: opened cmd as administrator and typed the following commands: cd C:\nvflash and after that nvflash -6 ROM_NAME.rom

4: after successful flash typed exit and enabled the display driver again and did a reboot.

Basically i followed these guidelines: http://www.overclock.net/t/1523391/easy-nvflash-guide-with-pictures-for-gtx-970-980

I was thinking that maybe i use the wrong programs to flash? I use v1.36 bios tweaker and NVFlash_Certs_Bypassed_v5.227_x64

Also, i must have done something wrong because when i did benchmark run with TDP and power limit at 300 watts i saw that the card did not trottled down anymore but when i was going for max clocks it wasn't higher than before and it crashed at the same clocks as before.. Maybe i already hit the limit with this card?

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You successfully flashed a BIOS correctly the first time. It worked fine. Then you flashed another BIOS and it got bricked. I don't want to spend the time reading all your posts, but you were even worried you'd brick the card (not 100% sure you'd successfully mod the BIOS). I don't mean any offense, but its a user error. Only reason I say that is cuz you want to blame the maxwell editor and said you would never do this again if you knew this would happen. Just gotta be careful and ask questions + double check your changes. I'm sure you're capable of doing it successfully. Just don't refuse to release some hidden potential in your card cuz you think its the programs fault.

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Also, post your changes before flashing. One of us can look it over just in case something is off.

I did post my bios screen shot some pages ago, the only thing i changed was the power limit and TDP from 300 to 295. I do not have the specified bios anymore so i cannot check it.
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You successfully flashed a BIOS correctly the first time. It worked fine. Then you flashed another BIOS and it got bricked. I don't want to spend the time reading all your posts, but you were even worried you'd brick the card (not 100% sure you'd successfully mod the BIOS). I don't mean any offense, but its a user error. Only reason I say that is cuz you want to blame the maxwell editor and said you would never do this again if you knew this would happen. Just gotta be careful and ask questions + double check your changes. I'm sure you're capable of doing it successfully. Just don't refuse to release some hidden potential in your card cuz you think its the programs fault.

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If you read DeathAngel's post, he recommended that you use his BIOS as a reference - meaning that you can look at the settings that are used in his BIOS and apply some of them to your own. He certainly did not recommend that you flash the EVGA BIOS to your MSI card. Basically, if your card has the same power connections as another's (2x 6-pins, 1x 8-pin and 1x 6-pin, etc), then you can generally use the Power and Voltage Tables from that other card for yours.

I have done this many times myself with success. You just need to make sure that your card is similar. thumb.gif
Those low clock speeds are normal for the card idling. When you set both of those Power Limit values in the BIOS to the same amount, then you're eliminating the ability to change that from AB. So if you wanted to be able to use the slider in AB, you'd need to set different values - like you see below.


I saw indeed that its the cards minimal speeds but if its normal, why didn't it happened before? Never seen this before but only after driver crash.

Its not that i want to adjust it in AB but no matter how high i set the TDP and power limit, AB keeps reading it as 110% you see.

I also see that i need to mod the table 4 and 5 for the peg rail and set them to the same value. But since i have 1 6 pin and one 6+2 connector, i guess i need to set different values because 2+6 connector can provide more power than a single 6 pin.

I suddenly see that i am missing 10 GB from my C drive too... weird things can happen if your flash goes wrong. I checked with sfc / scannow but there were no faults in Windows fortunately.
Edited by hurricane28 - 10/31/15 at 4:12am
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Okay, i successfully flashed this bios on my card:


These are the only things i changed but it made no difference and as a matter a fact my firestrike score dropped with an higher clock..

I did see that the card didn't throttle down in Firestrike, what is going on with this maxwell architecture? When i flashed my GTX 660 TI i get better scores but with this i get lower scores?? I would like to know what i did wrong here because it really hurt my head lol
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Table 1 should be set to
25000
300000
300000

also unless the power limit slider is maxed out in afterburner you wont see a difference. I you dont want to use afterburner set table 6 to
100000
300000
301000

but definitely fix table 1. good luck
     
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Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB DDR4-3200 Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB DDR4-3200 Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-NVMe SSD - Windows/Boot OCZ TRION 150 480GB 2.5" SSD - Games(RAID0) 
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Some POS 240GB SSD More HP junk Stock Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64 
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Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya x64 Samsung 40 in. Insignia wireless HP garbage PS 
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Intel Core i7 7820X 4.5GHz/3200MHz mesh @ 1.1v Asus STRIX X299-E GAMING  eVGa 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 HYBRID 2037/12000MHz PhysX Card: eVGA 1070 SC2 2037/9000 
RAMRAMHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB DDR4-3200 Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB DDR4-3200 Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-NVMe SSD - Windows/Boot OCZ TRION 150 480GB 2.5" SSD - Games(RAID0) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ TRION 150 480GB 2.5" SSD - Games(RAID0) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Riing RGB 360 AIO LCS Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate 64-bit LG 47LN5400 47in. HDTV @ 120Hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Ornato Chroma Thermaltake Toughpower DPS G RGB Titanium 1000W... Thermaltake Core X31 RGB Razer Deathadder Chroma 
Mouse PadAudio
Razer Firefly Chroma Samsung K360 Soundbar+Subwoofer 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A6-7310 2.00GHz Dual-core HP POS AMD Radeon R4 4GB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Some POS 240GB SSD More HP junk Stock Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya x64 Samsung 40 in. Insignia wireless HP garbage PS 
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