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is it normal to have only one card seeing load during benchmarks? i turned my OSD on becuase i was going to play some fallout, and when i ran that cinebench i noticed only one card was being loaded, so i rand firetrike and heaven and the same goes for both of them....i know SLI is enabled and im seeing trip;e digit FPS but i never knew only one card was seeing the load while the oher sat at 0....is that normal?
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Hey, apologies for the intrusion, but I need some help, while updating the driver for my GTX 970, windoze crashed and I'm stuck with a black screen on windows start.

I posted the details in the windoze forum, but I thought I'd pop in here and ask for help since I think this thread has more eyes on it.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1591119/win-81pro-crashed-while-installing-updated-graphics-driver-no-display-on-login-i-need-some-help/0_30

I appreciate any suggestions.

tnx,

Try removing the card. Boot into windows with your onboard graphics. Shut down, put the card in your second pcie slot and boot. You should be able to update the driver. Then shut down, put the card back in pcie slot 1 and boot.

I did it that way when I had a bios flash go bad. Worked for me.

I think that was how I did it.....worth a shot maybe.
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Try removing the card. Boot into windows with your onboard graphics. Shut down, put the card in your second pcie slot and boot. You should be able to update the driver. Then shut down, put the card back in pcie slot 1 and boot.

I did it that way when I had a bios flash go bad. Worked for me.

I think that was how I did it.....worth a shot maybe.

So far so good. Pulled the card and I can boot to the desktop. Thanks !

edit 1: used this command to list all the driver packages in the store.

PS C:\Windows\system32> pnputil -e > drivers.txt

copied the file to a directory I could edit it in vi, found the nvidia driver.

Published name : oem83.inf
Driver package provider : NVIDIA
Class : Sound, video and game controllers
Driver date and version : 10/06/2014 1.2.26
Signer name : Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher

and then deleted it.

PS C:\Windows\system32> pnputil -d oem83.inf
Microsoft PnP Utility

Driver package deleted successfully.

Time to put the card back in.

edit 2: Back to Black screen. Left integrated GFX enabled in Bios just re-installed the card. more work to do...
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Heya, I just got my 970 and did some initial OCing. Seems like a few things have changed since I last did any of this.



It's the Zotac 970 AMP Core Edition and these are stock clocks with Core Voltage set to max in Afterburner (+87mV I assume) and Power Limit at max with 106%. PerfCap Reason shows "Pwr" permanenantly and VRel sometimes. Is that normal? From what I've read so far that means that both Power Limit and to a lesser extent Core Voltage are already limiting, correct?

So here's what I got with OC:



Now when I set the clocks higher than this, I see artifacts in Heaven Benchmark. So would flashing another BIOS even help with this? I don't really understand this and would like to know before I dive deeper into it.
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Heya, I just got my 970 and did some initial OCing. Seems like a few things have changed since I last did any of this.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

It's the Zotac 970 AMP Core Edition and these are stock clocks with Core Voltage set to max in Afterburner (+87mV I assume) and Power Limit at max with 106%. PerfCap Reason shows "Pwr" permanenantly and VRel sometimes. Is that normal? From what I've read so far that means that both Power Limit and to a lesser extent Core Voltage are already limiting, correct?

So here's what I got with OC:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Now when I set the clocks higher than this, I see artifacts in Heaven Benchmark. So would flashing another BIOS even help with this? I don't really understand this and would like to know before I dive deeper into it.

Yes that is normal on a stock bios. They are limited by power and voltage. A custom bios will fix those perfcaps.

Here is a link to another thread on OCN:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1517316/extract-and-flash-gtx-970-and-980-firmware-zosons-h2o-and-air-custom-bios

Mr-Dark also has a thread where he will edit your bios:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1573308/nvidia-gtx-900-cards-custom-bios-upon-request

As long as your particular card doesn't have a voltage limit, you or whoever should be able to get more out of your card.

FYI, You can't hurt your card while using the stock bios, as you can see, it does have limits on it.

Good Luck!
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So far so good. Pulled the card and I can boot to the desktop. Thanks !

edit 1: used this command to list all the driver packages in the store.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
PS C:\Windows\system32> pnputil -e > drivers.txt

copied the file to a directory I could edit it in vi, found the nvidia driver.

Published name : oem83.inf
Driver package provider : NVIDIA
Class : Sound, video and game controllers
Driver date and version : 10/06/2014 1.2.26
Signer name : Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher

and then deleted it.

PS C:\Windows\system32> pnputil -d oem83.inf
Microsoft PnP Utility

Driver package deleted successfully.

Time to put the card back in.

edit 2: Back to Black screen. Left integrated GFX enabled in Bios just re-installed the card. more work to do...

Hope you get it figured out......sucks. We've all had a issue at one time or another.
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So I have random question.

One of my 970s voltages is higher than the other (no big deal) and it gets a little warmer than the other one, Maybe 7*c if it is the top card. Should I have that card on the top or bottom of my sli configuration? The temps stay about even if it is the bottom card. Should the card with the higher voltage be at the top? Is that going to effect how they clock in sli at all?
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Hope you get it figured out......sucks. We've all had a issue at one time or another.

I finally got it. after a few other failed tries here is what fixed it:

With the card removed, was able to goto device manager, and "view" hidden devices.

I was unable to delete the nVidia device driver. Got an error, something like "cannot delete device, decedents refused request"

But I was able to roll back the device, and then delete it confused.gif and I also deleted all of the other nVidia devices like miracast, mwave etc.

I rebooted (gfx card still out) and things still worked.

One more time reinstalled the card, left the BIOS set to onboard gfx and Windoze recognized the card, and auto added a driver.

I fired up the installer for the latest driver, selected everything I wanted another reboot, still on onboard-gfx, still good.

Shutdown, reset the Bios and all is as it was. Only about six hours of headache ...

@ Hequaqua - Thanks for the suggestions and the encouragement.
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So I have random question.

One of my 970s voltages is higher than the other (no big deal) and it gets a little warmer than the other one, Maybe 7*c if it is the top card. Should I have that card on the top or bottom of my sli configuration? The temps stay about even if it is the bottom card. Should the card with the higher voltage be at the top? Is that going to effect how they clock in sli at all?

That's the difference in the ASIC quality of the cards causing higher voltages in boost 2.0 mode to 3D boost clocks. The top card in an SLI configuration is almost always going to run a bit warmer than the bottom card, that's pretty normal. I always put the strongest card in the top (primary) slot.
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Originally Posted by Vellinious View Post

That's the difference in the ASIC quality of the cards causing higher voltages in boost 2.0 mode to 3D boost clocks. The top card in an SLI configuration is almost always going to run a bit warmer than the bottom card, that's pretty normal. I always put the strongest card in the top (primary) slot.

So would you put the card with the higher voltage on top?
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